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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 6, 2012 16:20:04 GMT -6
A bot using arrow training>speeders =l, you'd be leveling like crazy.
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Uchiha Sayori
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Post by Uchiha Sayori on Jun 6, 2012 16:25:13 GMT -6
have u done it before roy ?
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Jun 6, 2012 16:25:39 GMT -6
True, surprised you know about the Bot that can emulate human movements though 0.o nobody seems to run those anymore since they're apparently easy to catch.
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Post by Red on Jun 6, 2012 16:27:22 GMT -6
kurei its cuz NNG meditateing scripts coders use to write to train like mofos. And i honestly dont think log trainings boring. it might get boring for you if u dont have anything to watch, but i watch bleach *i just started watching it* while i train before i know it am 1.6k >-<
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Jun 6, 2012 18:08:09 GMT -6
kurei its cuz NNG meditateing scripts coders use to write to train like mofos. And i honestly dont think log trainings boring. it might get boring for you if u dont have anything to watch, but i watch bleach *i just started watching it* while i train before i know it am 1.6k >-< XD Nah, it's because I like interactive, and nothing about holding my ` button to hit a log or throw senbon is interactive.
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Kyoshiro
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Post by Kyoshiro on Jun 6, 2012 18:19:58 GMT -6
i agree with Red grinding NPC'S is boring and take too long to train but with log train is easier because you can watch anime or listening music...
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Post by Matt on Jun 6, 2012 18:36:29 GMT -6
...Killing/Fighting NPCs is boring, yet clicking a log is fun and is shorter..? Since when?
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Post by Lisa on Jun 6, 2012 18:38:12 GMT -6
You can still listen to music while playing the game o-o and watching movies while training can actually risk in you getting booted by admins or banned for you know, "afk training" if you are not paying attention to the chat. '- '
Also if you read one of Matt's posts he did write the training methods and how much exp they give. So people that like to log train can do that but it will give less exp than npc killing. Makes sense since log is less work than running around killing npcs. I agree to that since standing next to a log have become boring lately ._. and killing npcs that have a good ai can be a fun challenge xD
But will that mean some of the more unique npcs will be like "boss" npcs that gives more exp? o-o
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Post by Kyoshiro on Jun 6, 2012 18:50:49 GMT -6
sorry I'm Confuse Mitsuki can you explain all to me
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Post by Red on Jun 6, 2012 18:52:17 GMT -6
mitsuki i split wcreen so i know when afk checks are and since am a throw trainer i gotta pay attention if anyone trying to take my senbons so i know if a admins there thats just me tho. Oh and i know that npc training wouldnt be the only option but having to train lvl and stats is kinda little too much and i thi k people that have more time will become very op .-. throwing sword using kidoumaru ._. that will do a lotta damage with their arrows and having SS. ofc theres probly more deadly combos but ya .-. people will be able to do lots of more damage using throwings and swords at the same time .-.
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Post by Tiikeri on Jun 6, 2012 19:10:47 GMT -6
What if, to prevent whoring both, your Throwing Skill + Sword Skill cannot exceed twice your level? Instead of being able to get 20k in both.
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Post by Red on Jun 6, 2012 19:16:51 GMT -6
Wouldnt that kinda defeat matts purpose (he implemented this so people dont whore one skill(throwing or ss)) people would judt sword train till 20k SS and not do throwing at alls . I think its fine as it is but having npc killing give exp would be nice when u is bored. Npcs/player killing does give exp atm but you have to hit a log after killing a person/npc .-. and the exp doesnt stack lvls. Example: 20000/10000= 1 lvl not 2.
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Post by Black Frank White on Jun 6, 2012 19:20:48 GMT -6
However you do it matt i'm for the idea. Just make level cap higher.
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Post by Red on Jun 6, 2012 19:25:34 GMT -6
black making the lvl cap higher was done .-. it was 20k before didnt work out and was moved back to 10k
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Post by Lisa on Jun 6, 2012 19:25:44 GMT -6
That is you Red. But some people just minimize the ntfb window, use a throw/collect macro that spam your chat and other things. Or just doesn't pay that much attention in general. Have seen it happen when i was admin. Found someone throwing and resting. Talked to them, ran around them and all that. Then i booted and they returned telling me that they was watching a movie like wtf? o-O Like if you are that into a video then why play this game and try to train? Oh and people that actually afk train can use that as a excuse :I
I kinda like Tiikeri's idea since it will give people a choice. Btw you guys talked about not wanting to use more time? Guess what, if you wanted to cap in lvl, throw skill and sword skill you would use much more time than just lvl alone. (That is if you can max both sword skill and throw skill)
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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 6, 2012 20:09:19 GMT -6
That is you Red. But some people just minimize the ntfb window, use a throw/collect macro that spam your chat and other things. Or just doesn't pay that much attention in general. Have seen it happen when i was admin. Found someone throwing and resting. Talked to them, ran around them and all that. Then i booted and they returned telling me that they was watching a movie like wtf? o-O Like if you are that into a video then why play this game and try to train? Oh and people that actually afk train can use that as a excuse :I
Yeah I've had people use that excuse on me too xD, cept they were sword training when that happen......such a BS call rofl. I like how everyone ignored my post about konans being able to afk train with papers and mobs though....
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Jun 6, 2012 20:11:36 GMT -6
XD The people crying "Don't let us NPC train!" are either...
A) not understanding that both methods are viable, it's not gonna oust log training. B) misreading it that killing NPC's give stats, when they don't--he was talking about the HP/Chakra diffidence that already exists w/ logs/throwing training methods, and explaining that perhaps if you level while killing npc's the hp/chakra gain is random. C)Both A/B, and perhaps some other stuff like just wanting to complain, or don't want to actually "play" the game.
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Post by Tiikeri on Jun 6, 2012 20:12:48 GMT -6
If Konans' paper is anything like my bugs, then afk training will not be possible.(unless the AI is changed.) As it is, most mobs run from things like bugs, papers, shadows, etc. So I don't think afking with papers would be possible.
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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 6, 2012 20:20:29 GMT -6
XD The people crying "Don't let us NPC train!" are either... A) not understanding that both methods are viable, it's not gonna oust log training. B) misreading it that killing NPC's give stats, when they don't--he was talking about the HP/Chakra diffidence that already exists w/ logs/throwing training methods, and explaining that perhaps if you level while killing npc's the hp/chakra gain is random. C)Both A/B, and perhaps some other stuff like just wanting to complain, or don't want to actually "play" the game. Or D.) None of the above and realize that players who train via the most efficient training will obviously be the most selected for, rendering all other forms basically obsolete. @tii; I will admit I didn't even think Matt's AI would be that good as to have the mobs actually avoid the papers, but even if they do I'd be much more compliant with this form of training if the mobs did more damage to prevent shit like this.
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Jun 6, 2012 20:25:09 GMT -6
XD The people crying "Don't let us NPC train!" are either... A) not understanding that both methods are viable, it's not gonna oust log training. B) misreading it that killing NPC's give stats, when they don't--he was talking about the HP/Chakra diffidence that already exists w/ logs/throwing training methods, and explaining that perhaps if you level while killing npc's the hp/chakra gain is random. C)Both A/B, and perhaps some other stuff like just wanting to complain, or don't want to actually "play" the game. Or D.) None of the above and realize that players who train via the most efficient training will obviously be the most selected for, rendering all other forms basically obsolete. @tii; I will admit I didn't even think Matt's AI would be that good as to have the mobs actually avoid the papers, but even if they do I'd be much more compliant with this form of training if the mobs did more damage to prevent shit like this. Huh, 8k damage is a lot when they spam substitute and shushin and dodge half of your hits 0.o of course, that was when I was puppet and couldn't do shit damage. And Nah, Roy, Matt will still pick you for Mizukage over Joe Schmoe A, unless you decide to join SSM or something. Just like Laz will probably be akatsuki leader again, and Lemons will prolly be Kage unless the usual player stays in leaf.
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