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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 2, 2013 12:50:03 GMT -6
sefi would you say that the game was more fun like 2+ years ago?
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Post by Sefirosu on Mar 2, 2013 12:55:58 GMT -6
Of course it was, but I blame the change on the playerbase, not the mechanics of the game.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 2, 2013 13:01:59 GMT -6
i am just saying everyone seemed to enjoy the game much better when things were broken and cheap but to each his own
my ninjas dumpin out the roof (Do-do-do-do-do)
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Mar 2, 2013 13:05:43 GMT -6
sefi would you say that the game was more fun like 2+ years ago? Course it was ! The change in the player base ruined it though...we never took advantage of the cheap jutsus it was just " dodge dodge dodge !!!! " cuz 1 hit meant death lol. good ole' days
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Post by EternalCurse on Mar 2, 2013 13:45:04 GMT -6
Silly Maito one does not simply dodge the fuuma triangle OHKO and star strangle D:
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Post by Matt on Mar 2, 2013 15:00:48 GMT -6
^ Fuuma Triangle was OPed shit.
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Post by Apex Barry on Mar 2, 2013 22:53:10 GMT -6
We had a more diverse playerbase in the past in comparison to now, most people weren't tai based. We had a lot more throwing peeps and a hella lot of ninjutsu users (also the Tree Gen spam now was still existent then q.q). I'm only going back as far as 3 years ago though, I wasn't around for this Fuuma stuff. lol
But yeah, we approximately 90-98% of the playerbase is now taijutsu based (I blame the lack of damage on ninjutsu on that part, but Swords are taking a hit now so... idk). With the decrease in Sword damage, we (may) see diversity in builds once again, or not since ninjutsu takes more time to learn to hit with than a sword.
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Post by Sefirosu on Mar 3, 2013 9:24:25 GMT -6
Well now that sword training will require 2x the training time, that may change
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 3, 2013 11:26:58 GMT -6
if you want to decrease the number of sword trainers nerf sword damage and buff nin jutsu some it works with riot champs
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Post by ♛Stigmata Gillz© on Mar 3, 2013 11:44:23 GMT -6
if you want to decrease the number of sword trainers nerf sword damage and buff nin jutsu some it works with riot champs Are you aware how many times swording has been nerfed(and not just damage, sword training itself)? your not going to get rid of loyal sword users by continuing to nerf it <.< (not to mention each time you nerf it, organizations like the SSM lose more luster), However some ninjutsu need a slight buff (like the first two Danzo wind jutsu) Infact i propose that the wind bullet jutsu that danzo teaches (forgot what it was called but it looks like he old housenka with 3 shots of 1 tile, Transform that into how housenka works now, and you have a decent wind jutsu.
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Mar 3, 2013 11:49:26 GMT -6
Fuuton Shinkuu Gyaku
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Post by Swag~arashi on Mar 3, 2013 12:18:41 GMT -6
if you want to decrease the number of sword trainers nerf sword damage and buff nin jutsu some it works with riot champs Are you aware how many times swording has been nerfed(and not just damage, sword training itself)? your not going to get rid of loyal sword users by continuing to nerf it <.< (not to mention each time you nerf it, organizations like the SSM lose more luster), However some ninjutsu need a slight buff (like the first two Danzo wind jutsu) Infact i propose that the wind bullet jutsu that danzo teaches (forgot what it was called but it looks like he old housenka with 3 shots of 1 tile, Transform that into how housenka works now, and you have a decent wind jutsu. Slight buff? Almost all elemental ninjutsu needs a buff.
Putting points into ninjutsu is absolutely worthless unless you have specific amazing clan jutsu. If we keep ignoring that weakness and keep nerfing swords instead then it's just going to be un-fun to spec into either of them. Tai will reign supreme.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 3, 2013 14:28:20 GMT -6
Yuki need a buff, can't recall the last one I saw who didn't use seen on and knuckle knifes due to there nin Justu lacking
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Post by Apex Barry on Mar 3, 2013 14:38:35 GMT -6
Yuki do not need a buff. In fact, a lot of them run and spam their AoE senbon thing which can do a pretty high amount of damage since it hits so often up close. They're a throwing clan, so they don't even need KK, and mirrors can be deadly too.
Waga is correct, nearly all ninjutsu need a buff to their damage as most don't even balance the chakra cost with the amount of damage they do.
Gillz sword damage is already taking another nerf, gonna be the second nerf to damage I've seen lol. Was made 90%, then training was made slower... we'll see how fun it is to be one with the newer training system.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 3, 2013 15:11:28 GMT -6
Barry I was referring to their nin Justu, the only useful one that scales off nin Justu is the ice spikes Which is A to small B leaves you a sitting duck And c kinda hard to aim
Also the yuki clan was revered for there kekki genii, which involved a shit load of nin jutsu not just weapon skill
You seem to have missed the point, there nin jutsu capabilities suck so bad that people resort to tai in stead of nin jutsu, when in fact it should be vice versa for a nin clan
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Post by Apex Barry on Mar 3, 2013 15:49:17 GMT -6
Lol Dean, what ninjutsu, exactly? Haku wasn't shown using any Ice jutsu except for Demonic Mirrors and Ice Dome. His Ice spikes aren't even in the manga, it's one of the few anime/game only jutsu we have in the game. I was pretty sure it froze people too but that I'm not too sure on.
They were revered for their Kekkei Genkai, but the main jutsu they were feared for were Ice Mirrors. It was pretty inescapable, and they could kill their opponent using throwing weapons (Haku used senbon because he didn't like killing). So, in all honesty, Yuki is pretty much a throwing weapon based clan.
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Post by Hashirama Senju on Mar 3, 2013 15:53:36 GMT -6
This game much more fun back in the old days. It will never be the same anymore though.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 3, 2013 16:25:45 GMT -6
:-/Okay I just got done watching the anime and I notice a few things that this game does wrong, no offense
1. the rotation jutsu the Hyuuga use After watching the chuunin arc and listening to tenten explain the rotation, jutsu such as chidori and rasengan should not break that shield hence it repels all forms of chakra. And considering the chidori and rasengan are pure chakra they should be repealed just like everything else
2. When someone is trapped within the mirrors it becomes harder to breathe making those trapped move slower than normal, not to mention the movement speed it takes to move from mirror to mirror is far to slow for someone who can move at quick paces between each mirror invisible to the naked eye other than the sharing an
Forgot the other two thing
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Post by ♛Stigmata Gillz© on Mar 3, 2013 19:27:50 GMT -6
Yuki do not need a buff. In fact, a lot of them run and spam their AoE senbon thing which can do a pretty high amount of damage since it hits so often up close. They're a throwing clan, so they don't even need KK, and mirrors can be deadly too. Waga is correct, nearly all ninjutsu need a buff to their damage as most don't even balance the chakra cost with the amount of damage they do. Gillz sword damage is already taking another nerf, gonna be the second nerf to damage I've seen lol. Was made 90%, then training was made slower... we'll see how fun it is to be one with the newer training system. Chronilogically it's gone through 3 damages nerfs. two of those you weren't around for.
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Post by Matt on Mar 3, 2013 19:57:04 GMT -6
When someone is trapped in the mirrors it makes them slower? I don't remember this at all. Dean what are you trying to say in this second statement? You can't see someone move from Mirror to Mirror, when you click a Mirror it moves you to a different one, a person with Sharingan/Byakugan can see where the person inside the Mirrors are yes, but it isn't them moving around...
You guys say "Ninjutsu sucks" but that is only because it drains chakra, Taijutsu and Swords havnt drained Stamina except for a few moves. You guys arnt saying Ninjutsu sucks, you are saying Taijutsu doesnt cost compared to Ninjutsu. I will look into the cost of how much they drain and how much damage they do, but if you are expecting to do Nin*1 or Nin*2 you are mistaken. Tai was changed to *0.65 for a basic punch.
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