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Post by Matt on Feb 15, 2013 12:45:32 GMT -6
Well...originally my idea was...
10k in each Skill would be the Cap, and points in both could not go past usr.level*2...
So by level 5,000 you could have 5,000 levels in Sword and 5,000 levels in Throwing...or 10,000 in Sword and 0 in Throwing...or vice versa.
Ideas?
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Feb 15, 2013 13:27:38 GMT -6
Whelan, i'm not against being able to raise both skills (nor am i saying you were). I'm against being able to cap both at such a high value. Capping , in my opinion signifies that the user is a 'master' at both. And everyone in the show wasn't a master at both but they could use both throwable weapons and hold a sword. "Proficient with "and a "Master of" are two different things in my eyes. It's with that in mind that i don't like this "being able to cap both skills" idea and that's why i'm sticking with my idea >_>. 20,000 is the MAXIMUM levels allotted to throwing and sword skill. It's the players decision how they wish to partition said stats. Whelan, you pride yourself on being a 'sword guy'. Ideally, you could go 15k sword skill and 5k throwing. (( Bare in mind it's just an example )) If we're going in the direction of eventually reaching a state where the game is 'balanced; why keep providing individuals with the means to have insane dmg output..there has to be a limit and i think we start here. So i'm agreeing with Matt. Well...originally my idea was... 10k in each Skill would be the Cap, and points in both could not go past usr.level*2... So by level 5,000 you could have 5,000 levels in Sword and 5,000 levels in Throwing...or 10,000 in Sword and 0 in Throwing...or vice versa. Ideas?
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Feb 15, 2013 13:44:02 GMT -6
Matt's idea sounds good, actually. That way @ 10k you don't have someone who tai/spd whored not having to rely on nin at all.
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Post by Swag~arashi on Feb 15, 2013 15:18:30 GMT -6
And if you take the time to cap all three (level and both skills), why shouldn't you deal more damage? Why is there a level cap?
The cap was put it to keep people with more time than others under control. So that people with a job or school(or both) could still be relevant.
If that is the reasoning for it you might as well remove the level cap/
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Feb 15, 2013 15:34:28 GMT -6
Why not make it clan based?
I mean, for example, Kidoumaru or Yuki clan max Sword Skill they can get is 5k and 15k throwing skill
Uchihas can get 10k/10k, Kaguyas 15k/5k etc
Idk, just some thoughts, Kaguyas can be masters of the swords and proficients with throw training, and Yukis vice versa.
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Post by F.G.D Slayer, Mello on Feb 15, 2013 15:38:41 GMT -6
Damnit Thurnis, I was gonna say that (╯°Д°)╯︵┻━┻ But yeah the problem with that Thurnis is that those things are determined by an individual's talent and ability. While I can see how clan and bloodline would affect this, it doesn't mean that a normal person with enough effort/talent and ability can't surpass them. Well...originally my idea was... 10k in each Skill would be the Cap, and points in both could not go past usr.level*2... So by level 5,000 you could have 5,000 levels in Sword and 5,000 levels in Throwing...or 10,000 in Sword and 0 in Throwing...or vice versa. Ideas? I like this though.
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Post by Matt on Feb 15, 2013 17:08:27 GMT -6
And if you take the time to cap all three (level and both skills), why shouldn't you deal more damage? Why is there a level cap?
The cap was put it to keep people with more time than others under control. So that people with a job or school(or both) could still be relevant.
If that is the reasoning for it you might as well remove the level cap/Well, while its possible that a Child can be a god of Throwing Weapons, I need SOME kind of way to make it so you have to earn Throwing and Sword... I think you are taking my words out of context...or atleast in the wrong context. You leveling normally would be the people that don't have that much time to play. If you have extra time then you can work towards your Throwing and Sword skill to increase your overall damage. It will kinda be a "Side Quest" of sorts. Extra that helps but you won't need it to be successful if you have skill.
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Post by Matt on Feb 15, 2013 17:17:46 GMT -6
I think the "Cap" on the skills should be 10k. 10k in one skill would be the "Mastered" Rank (we won't call it that though ) While 10k is the max, remember, sword damage is still based off more then just your skill with a sword, its based off speed and strength aswell. Having a "loose" cap of you are given 20k Levels and you can divide them how you want between Sword and Throwing will cause some OCD effects in me. Sword - 11388 Throwing - 8612... Baaaad. Throwing - 10000 Sword - 10000 Gooood! I don't think I like the idea of different clans having their limit changed.
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Post by ♛Stigmata Gillz© on Feb 15, 2013 20:26:25 GMT -6
i probably won't ever cap TS, too much work, never gonna use it, meh
Btw matt will we finally see terumii's this update?
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Post by Matt on Feb 15, 2013 20:33:32 GMT -6
...Define see.
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Post by ♛Stigmata Gillz© on Feb 15, 2013 20:44:59 GMT -6
playable with at least 1 clan jutsu D:?
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Post by Apex Barry on Feb 15, 2013 22:00:47 GMT -6
I like the idea of having a 10k total cap. (I'd probably just get swords but I might go with my tribrid PLANZ).
Also Rey, your idea isn't BAD, it's just bad for how things currently work. Kaguya already have an OP projectile, giving them the ability to become a jack of all trades would just give other clans a greater disadvantage, when we need more balance in the game. Before implementing something like that, some clans need a re-working.
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Feb 16, 2013 3:00:57 GMT -6
I like the idea of having a 10k total cap. (I'd probably just get swords but I might go with my tribrid PLANZ). Also Rey, your idea isn't BAD, it's just bad for how things currently work. Kaguya already have an OP projectile, giving them the ability to become a jack of all trades would just give other clans a greater disadvantage, when we need more balance in the game. Before implementing something like that, some clans need a re-working. I don't think that it would unbalance things, Kidoumarus have such an OP'd Cursed Seal, and it's really hard to fight a Yuki, and a Konan that is good at throwing, probably those are among the most hard clans to fight for me, after Kaguya itself. When I say Kaguya I obviously refer to Akimichi, Hoshigaki clan etc. About bone bullets, I always thought it should be 1/2 tai and 1/2 throwing skill, I guess it's the right time to suggest that, lol. No problem with you not adding it, it was just a simple idea.
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Feb 16, 2013 4:33:16 GMT -6
Kidoumaru's curse seal isn't OP'd....it's no different to kaguya's.
Thurnis..bone bullets being based on throwing skill is a bad idea -_-.
Matt, no one cares about your OCD,you're not the one who has to look at his stats,lol. !! Make it a loose cap !! Please.
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Post by Apex Barry on Feb 16, 2013 14:19:32 GMT -6
Rey, the only thing that should be done to Bone Bullets is simply nerfing the damage down to 1/2 Tai, and that is being generous.
Also, I'm not saying the clan based cap thing shouldn't be implemented, I'm just saying that right now is not a good time for it because of how everything currently works.
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Post by nuby6776 on Feb 18, 2013 14:38:55 GMT -6
Matt jw by your estimate when will the game be back up?
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Feb 18, 2013 21:41:42 GMT -6
Matt jw by your estimate when will the game be back up? It's up when it's up . Inb4 you potentially get murdered for asking about it...
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Post by Moo on Mar 2, 2013 10:19:15 GMT -6
I wanted to contribute to this thread but then I saw math lol.. Negros dont do math.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Mar 2, 2013 12:28:19 GMT -6
why stride for balance, in the anime/ manga theres was not such thing as balance and it turned out fine i say let the overpowered rule and the weaklings dwindle in their weakness
if not just nerf the crap out f everything until everyone is on equal grounds, then maybe you all will be happy
but in actuality nerf Kaguyas, do to them what riot does to every new champ it releases. they are scum upon the world and they need to be dealt with, something related to how mist dealt with them.
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Post by Sefirosu on Mar 2, 2013 12:32:41 GMT -6
This is a video game, not the manga. Balanced = good
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