Sasume Uchiha
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I'll never give up nor turn tail when protecting the peace, for I am Sasume Uchiha, the Karasukage!
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Post by Sasume Uchiha on Apr 7, 2014 11:30:11 GMT -6
So ,after my battle with EC upon the sixth of April I realized that something didn't quite add up regarding the fight. I had successfully killed two of his Jiongu demons (the Katon and Doton ones) hence I figured "ok...now I don't have to worry about his shield blocking my palms or that big flaming nuke..." Well it turns out I was dead wrong. Despite the fact that the demons were dead EC still had the abilities of both from what I observed (and got hit with...still tending to a burn..)
Now it is my understanding that when Kakshi struck Kakuzu his Doton heart died off, hence he had to get one to replace it. I'm gathering from this that Kakuzu himself either had Doton affinity or that perhaps his clan itself has Doton as the affinity, I can't really pinpoint it down. My point overall though with this suggestion is that wouldn't it make logical sense that if the entity a skill is derived from is killed off, the wielder could no longer access that skill? Feel free to leave comments/questions guys, Sas out.
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Apr 7, 2014 16:10:50 GMT -6
I actually always thought this was the case. As it is, I try to protect my demons if I drop them, or drop them, use the skill, and pick them back up. I think if anything is reworked, something should be done about automatically getting Suiton Aff. No suiton skill makes me
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 7, 2014 21:49:27 GMT -6
Kakuza affinity was most likely suiton hence he derived from the hidden waterfall village. also within the naruto universe affinity means being able to use a nature transformation. you can have 2 or more, as shown with kakashi having 5.
in terms of them losing there hearts if the demon is killed what purpose will that serve. people would simply not use them. i mean they can spam the aoe jutsu themselves, and would make raiding that much harder. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Sasume Uchiha
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I'll never give up nor turn tail when protecting the peace, for I am Sasume Uchiha, the Karasukage!
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Post by Sasume Uchiha on Apr 8, 2014 6:25:51 GMT -6
That's the point, Dean. A Jiongu should have to be worried about their Hearts at all times, hence be much ore tactical in the use of them. Just randomly nuking an entire village should take time to set up and prepare, not just "drop my demon then set the place on fire.." If the Jiongu were to be detected then it would make using certain skills harder by a multitude.
P.S I forgot to add this in at the time but I was thinking as a reason of compensating for the demon death thing as as described originally why not make it so where if a Jiongu has 3 hearts in his body at the current time he'd have to be struck down three times in order to die for good. Also trust me I'm not trying to make them harder to use I just think that right now they're actually too EASY to use as is. They have the skin that can block most tai (which is understandable,yet when it's broken it can just be thrown right back up again), aoe nukes that cover a wide range, now I know for vets who know the range + damage formula this can be easily avoided or tanked, but for others who may not have as much combat experience as say you or myself, Dean, fighting a Jiongu may be a true challenge...I'm simply looking out for the benefits of everyone here. I also DO understand that the Affinity must be suiton hence the WF thing, yet my concern was the demon death issue thing. (and btw NOTE: That would apply to Demon techniques only, not elemental jutsu. Just in case someone gets confused)
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 8, 2014 21:54:39 GMT -6
considering a few things having to kill them 5 times over would be a nice buff.
pretty sure iron skin was nerfed and you can't move that fast while it's on(btw that goes against the mange/anime)
if they lose a heart, the skills from that element both demon and non demon should be nullified until they retrieve those hearts again. this will force strategic game play and not just spamming things that will leave them open to death. because just about everyone knows how a pain locating specific hearts can be.
also in terms of them actually worrying about hearts, nothing is hard with just killing the likes of rey or kuni to have your own harvest facotyr for anythime you want them or need.
summing up, the only way this game will ever be balanced is when Matt plays the dota card. make everything broken therefore game is balanced. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Iruna Nakara on Apr 12, 2014 20:08:04 GMT -6
How about we do this okay the idea of the hearts and all that is perfectly fine but lets say that the jiongu has all his demons out if this is the case then his hp should be divided evenly among him and his demons so if he enter the battle with full health and one daemon dies and he decides to escape when he brings his other demons back he should have lost the amount of hp that his dead deamon had and if all his demons are killed he is left with moderately low hp and if his main heart if killed then he is forced to absorb one of his demons hearts to sustain his life until he runs out eventually(assuming his demons are still alive if not he parishes)
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Kazuki
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Post by Kazuki on Apr 14, 2014 12:12:23 GMT -6
I support.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 15, 2014 10:08:46 GMT -6
sounds like an unwanted hazard and with demons being able to be 1 hitted, doesn't suit meta maybe if the demons were given the option of turning into an AI at the owners command might this be acceptable. also they have to be top tier AI, Not necessarily madara but nothing like the standard caught at stomp and gets stuck. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 22:49:44 GMT -6
also in terms of them actually worrying about hearts, nothing is hard with just killing the likes of rey or kuni to have your own harvest facotyr Lolwhat? Who is rey? Learn to spell man. Sasume Uchiha Just sounds like a bug but I +1 support. Make it happen coder. The demons are the source so no demons no jutsus.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 16, 2014 8:29:00 GMT -6
also in terms of them actually worrying about hearts, nothing is hard with just killing the likes of rey or kuni to have your own harvest facotyr Lolwhat? Who is rey? Learn to spell man. Sasume Uchiha Just sounds like a bug but I +1 support. Make it happen coder. The demons are the source so no demons no jutsus. wasn't a spelling issue, more of a typing and not caring to fix issue. kuni you know your not hard to locate and kill. not like you're EC, Laz or Nos "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 11:34:56 GMT -6
Lolwhat? Who is rey? Learn to spell man. Sasume Uchiha Just sounds like a bug but I +1 support. Make it happen coder. The demons are the source so no demons no jutsus. wasn't a spelling issue, more of a typing and not caring to fix issue. kuni you know your not hard to locate and kill. not like you're EC, Laz or Nos "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" Not only have you never located and killed me but ec,laz,and noshi are as easy to kill as anyone in the game with the tactics you use. What are you even talking about? We don't fight.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 16, 2014 15:58:41 GMT -6
considering my build and tactics, i find it most difficult killing laz and noshi. EC being the cheap fighter is also hard to kill.
i do not wish to debate on this. if i can't locate and then kill you, prove so in game. you're pillow talking, that's for bitches. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 12:20:34 GMT -6
considering my build and tactics, i find it most difficult killing laz and noshi. EC being the cheap fighter is also hard to kill. i do not wish to debate on this. if i can't locate and then kill you, prove so in game. you're pillow talking, that's for bitches. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" Then log on. There isn't a debate , you aren't good at fighting. Also you do know you're a cheap fighter right? Like Cheaper than EC.
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Apr 17, 2014 14:01:08 GMT -6
I don't even remember fighting Dean, looks like I'm so present in his mind.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Apr 17, 2014 14:14:56 GMT -6
considering my build and tactics, i find it most difficult killing laz and noshi. EC being the cheap fighter is also hard to kill. i do not wish to debate on this. if i can't locate and then kill you, prove so in game. you're pillow talking, that's for bitches. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" Then log on. There isn't a debate , you aren't good at fighting. Also you do know you're a cheap fighter right? Like Cheaper than EC. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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