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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 13, 2013 21:42:28 GMT -6
well as you all might know, the under belly of America has shown itself and i among most am deeply saddened, but ultimately my anger has peaked for which i am now livid.i of coarse have shed a few tears, we went to middle school together.
currently in Miami, Florida (Treyvons home town) only a half an hour later after the verdict 3 white people have been shot down ruthlessly. this is simply the beginning
"Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Levi on Jul 14, 2013 0:50:02 GMT -6
I thought he was not guilty.. Stupid, but not guilty of murder, IMO.
Also, sorry for your loss. o.o
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Post by EternalCurse on Jul 14, 2013 1:09:08 GMT -6
well as you all might know, the under belly of America has shown itself and i among most am deeply saddened, but ultimately my anger has peaked for which i am now livid.i of coarse have shed a few tears, we went to middle school together. currently in Miami, Florida (Treyvons home town) only a half an hour later after the verdict 3 white people have been shot down ruthlessly. this is simply the beginning "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" The fuck? They're condoning violence because he was not guilty? How does that make them any better than him? Zimmerman isn't even white he's Peruvian. Personally I thought he was guilty it's just sad that they didn't have enough physical evidence to find him guilty. All the attention on this case didn't help out either it's like the Casey Anthony case she got all the funding to hire a good lawyer for running her shit on t.v.
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Post by Levi on Jul 14, 2013 4:10:48 GMT -6
I don't know, from what I've seen and read online regarding the evidence and what supposedly went down, I didn't think he was guilty of murder. You wanna talk about injustice.. Johannes Mehserle getting 2 fucking years for executing Oscar Grant, that's injustice..
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Post by Apex Barry on Jul 14, 2013 7:36:35 GMT -6
I figured something like this would happen. And Zimmerman is mixed, he has white and peruvian heritage. But he simply (like Roy) looks white. Also, the verdict was idiotic in not convicting Zimmerman of murder. At trial he didn't even have the physique he did when he shot and killed Treyvon Martin.
Zimmerman was pretty built at the time he shot Treyvon. And Treyvon Martin was just tall, he wasn't muscular or anything. Just tall and skinny. Break it down though, Zimmerman was following Treyvon, who was doing nothing wrong at the time, in his car. AGAINST the police telling him NOT to follow him. I don't know how they got into a tussle that they said apparently happened, but there is no reason why a skinny young 17 year old male could overpower the then-built Zimmerman to the point where he pulls out a gun, and shoots him through the heart. If you fall back a little, Zimmerman is not licensed to CARRY that gun, so what the fuck?
Honestly I was hoping they would find him guilty. A mother lost her fucking son that day, just because of an idiot followed her son around in his car and her son (apparently) decided that he should do something about it. I mean really, WHO is the suspicious one here? Treyvon? Lolno, I'm pretty sure most people would be creeped out by some random following them in their car. Most would fear for their lives in this situation. And there's no telling if Zimmerman provoked Treyvon into attacking (IF he did attack him) and I repeat, there was no reason for him to pull out a gun and kill a child who's not even considered an "adult" in the eyes of the law yet. This really is injustice, and people all over the country have said "If Zimmerman gets free, SOMEBODY is going to handle it, he's not really safe anywhere."
I feel bad that 3 white people got gunned down. But for once Dean is probably right, this really is only the beginning. Now that the judicial system has proved to the people that it can be truly unfair towards the black community, then from now on most of them won't turn to the law for justice. Instead, they'll kill the person once they find out who it is, and there WILL be collateral most times because people who have that mindset don't give two shits about who their target is around.
The judge should've foreseen this type of situation, and Zimmerman (who obviously was guilty) should have just taken his punishment and gone to prison. At least then, people would have hope that the judicial system could actually serve justice for the black community, who already don't have much faith in the judicial system. This case could've renewed that faith, even just a little bit. And I'm not saying it's the judge's fault, they mainly tell you what's going to happen. It's the dumbass jury's fault for sympathizing with this idiotic murderer. At least he might have lived longer in prison.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 14, 2013 8:45:24 GMT -6
wasn't the jury suppose to be a rally of peers, all white women who seemed easily swayed. @levi considering the fact that he neglected the orders of an officer and stalked an adolescent with a weapon of deadly force like a cannibalistic red neck, why wouldn't he be guilty. doesn't take much to see what happened. in another note a women in Florida is getting 20 years for firing a warning shot into the roof of her home due to her abusive husband or boyfriend was hitting on her. www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57434757-504083/fla-woman-marissa-alexander-gets-20-years-for-warning-shot-did-she-stand-her-ground/ (heres the link) this one trail has placed a wedge and set white and black relations far back.the part that really gets me is zimmerman's brother response making it seem as treyvon got what was coming to him. well now many shall die in the place of one and cast America into a dark age "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Onime no Kyo on Jul 14, 2013 23:51:52 GMT -6
I find this threat quiet funny. If you want someone to blame, it is rather simple. The Prosecutors are the one who failed. It isn't the juries fault, or even America's. The defense just did a better job. In this country, it doesn't matter if your guilty or innocent. It's who's lawyer is better.
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Post by Red on Jul 16, 2013 20:40:38 GMT -6
Yea I think the prosecution failed. But I thought Zimmer was done for when his lawyer opened up with a joke. Oh well if he doesnt relocate he'll probably die. And people are being stupid..They're using this as an excuse to do illegal shit. Rioting in a Walmart sure has a lot to do with the kid doesnt it? And stealing jewlry too... and beating up random white people..
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Post by #Chair Force on Jul 16, 2013 23:13:17 GMT -6
As this was already said, why is this case so diferent from any other? People kill innocent people everyday, wether Zimmerman went to jail or not, it would have changed nothing. This really doesn't even bother me because people get killed much younger and really uninvolved in anything. We should just be thankful for the interwebs and not in a country where it is hard to even find food. The amount of time you guys actually wasted on this case was sad because you could have probably read a decent book by the time this case was over. Also, just because you are Black doesn't mean everything is over a issue of race. In alot of cases such as walking around stores yes it is. Also remember Dean, this jury was composed of 6 women from your state. They had the final say in all of this so don't say the prosecution was horrible, your state law obviously needs some revisions and this is why you should vote kiddies.
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Post by Levi on Jul 16, 2013 23:16:15 GMT -6
As this was already said, why is this case so diferent from any other? People kill innocent people everyday, wether Zimmerman went to jail or not, it would have changed nothing. This really doesn't even bother me because people get killed much younger and really uninvolved in anything. We should just be thankful for the interwebs and not in a country where it is hard to even find food. The amount of time you guys actually wasted on this case was sad because you could have probably read a decent book by the time this case was over. Also, just because you are Black doesn't mean everything is over a issue of race. In alot of cases such as walking around stores yes it is. Also remember Dean, this jury was composed of 6 women from your state. They had the final say in all of this so don't say the prosecution was horrible, your state law obviously needs some revisions and this is why you should vote kiddies. Fuck reading books. D:<
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 17, 2013 1:56:37 GMT -6
just because those women came from my state doesn't mean they were a jury of my peers, understand i couldn't care less for black on black violence or even white on black violence until it hits home. to be quite frank i don't even like modern black people they sicken me to a great degree thinking the world is based around swag and bitches, but once you fuck around with one then it's an honor thing and i need vengeance to sedate my hunger. ever since my accident i been very vengeful,i don't like getting fucked, so if you fuck around with them fuck arounds you fuck around and get smoked
if we didn't grow up with each other i wouldn't have even mentioned this case, and you people can't seem to get that.i only seen the last two trails, wasn't about to waste weeks on this shit, all i need is the end result. am i not suppose to be upset when a childhood friend gets stalked like a boar and some wanna be Artemis takes his life? and then the country i love with great passion fails to provide justice casting me into a state livid.
not to mention what kind of fuck shit is it that who ever lawyers better determines if they are guilty or not, don west from what i read was being really offensive with that 2nd trail opening statement. now you have people feeling like 3rd class citizens and the edge between blacks and whites is just as bad if not worse than the civil rights era. all that growing just to be revert within one trail.
not to mention the faith in the government even with a black(so they say) president.
that is the overall reasoning for me being upset if you can't relate, sympathize or empathize, don't address me and you can bite the dick that feeds you
"Dictated. Not Read." "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Apex Barry on Jul 17, 2013 13:06:42 GMT -6
As this was already said, why is this case so diferent from any other? People kill innocent people everyday, wether Zimmerman went to jail or not, it would have changed nothing. This really doesn't even bother me because people get killed much younger and really uninvolved in anything. We should just be thankful for the interwebs and not in a country where it is hard to even find food. The amount of time you guys actually wasted on this case was sad because you could have probably read a decent book by the time this case was over. Also, just because you are Black doesn't mean everything is over a issue of race. In alot of cases such as walking around stores yes it is. Also remember Dean, this jury was composed of 6 women from your state. They had the final say in all of this so don't say the prosecution was horrible, your state law obviously needs some revisions and this is why you should vote kiddies. This case got a lot of publicity, unlike several smaller cases. So of course it would have had a huge impact one way or another. Look at these dumbass riots and shootings of white people by people who are losing their shit over this case. That should be proof enough. I do agree with you, people get shot and killed much younger and even those people get let off easily when they shouldn't. I believe I said it before in my previous post and I'll say it again, you can take race out of it and it's still an adult male killing a minor. A mother that lost her son, and so on and so forth. I'm not saying Zimmerman SHOULD be killed, I'm saying it's likely that he will be even if he relocates. And don't judge people by what they spend time doing lol, some people who pay attention to how the law is carried out might say the same about your idea of spending your free time. I never really did pay attention to cases until I took Poly Sci at Baylor. Learning about them and the process of things, as well as the many cases that changed our system bit by bit to what it is today was pretty interesting. Lol some cases were pretty humorous, and some sad, like the case to integrate black and white elementary schools that used the doll test. Also Lemons, it was Kyo that said the prosecution was horrible, not Dean (if he said it idk because I rarely read his posts, if he did then disregard the statement). As in my original post, I still blame the jury. Not my state, but when a Hispanic/White male can get away with killing a young minor who was doing nothing wrong, despite police telling the adult not to follow the young male, AND him not being licensed to carry the gun he killed him with (This part I was told by someone else); while a black woman who is being physically abused by her husband fires a warning shot, not hitting him, gets 20 years... yeah, it screams something is wrong with the judicial system in that state imo. There's some unfair sentencing going on in Texas too, but for the most part none of it gets publicized as much as this case did.
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Post by Red on Jul 17, 2013 18:18:27 GMT -6
As this was already said, why is this case so diferent from any other? People kill innocent people everyday, wether Zimmerman went to jail or not, it would have changed nothing. This really doesn't even bother me because people get killed much younger and really uninvolved in anything. We should just be thankful for the interwebs and not in a country where it is hard to even find food. The amount of time you guys actually wasted on this case was sad because you could have probably read a decent book by the time this case was over. Also, just because you are Black doesn't mean everything is over a issue of race. In alot of cases such as walking around stores yes it is. Also remember Dean, this jury was composed of 6 women from your state. They had the final say in all of this so don't say the prosecution was horrible, your state law obviously needs some revisions and this is why you should vote kiddies. Even when I can vote, I probably wont. Cuz I dont know shit about politics and don't really care for them. But that also means I shouldn't complain I guess. But the reason I think they failed is cuz they over charged. Shoulda just focused on manslaughter.
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Post by #Chair Force on Jul 18, 2013 0:47:43 GMT -6
Ahhhh so it only matters when it happens to someone close to you? That is a pretty sad thing because as I said before, these things are present in current society and you only fucking care about a kid you know? Fuck out of here, you are a little selfish bitch that needs to get over himself.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 18, 2013 12:51:24 GMT -6
Kyuubi your funny, it's not sad at all it's survival you can't worry about everyone and expect to get ahead, it's just me and the fam. fuck you if you don't agree not to mention the cycle of ahte will never end so why try to fight a battle that your are going to lose. if you don't agree fuck you "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Matt on Jul 18, 2013 20:49:21 GMT -6
Kyuubi your funny, it's not sad at all it's survival you can't worry about everyone and expect to get ahead, it's just me and the fam. fuck you if you don't agree not to mention the cycle of ahte will never end so why try to fight a battle that your are going to lose. if you don't agree fuck you "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" That's kinda funny. That is defending ones self right? Self Defense? Isn't that was Zimmermen claimed to be doing? /THREAD
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 19, 2013 0:52:45 GMT -6
key word claimed, that holds no validity "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Jul 19, 2013 2:12:48 GMT -6
Ahhhh so it only matters when it happens to someone close to you? That is a pretty sad thing because as I said before, these things are present in current society and you only fucking care about a kid you know? Fuck out of here, you are a little selfish bitch that needs to get over himself. This does not make sense. If your grandfather died, I swear you'd feel worse than if someone you don't know about did. We worry about things that affect us and are close to us, so, Dean obviously cares about this cause he was close to him, and that totally makes sense.
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Post by Oak on Jul 19, 2013 3:09:08 GMT -6
Everyone is turning this into a racial thing when it's simply a murder case.
Zimmerman didn't say he shot Treyvon because he was black, did he?
It's the black community taking it as racism. And now you have people crying that black people are being treated unfairly.
White people get killed all the time, teens and everything. It doesn't become a full blown "oh it's because we're white" situation. Asians don't act this way when an asian teenager is murdered.
All of you who're claiming that blacks are being oppressed or whatever the fuck you're spouting about blacks being treated unfairly need a big reality check to the face.
Also, Dean, you're basically wishing another holocaust on the whites because one person, who you happened to know, died? Grow the fuck up.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jul 19, 2013 4:43:12 GMT -6
Oak i never mentioned anything about the slaughtering of a race and considering that a young black male with a hoodie was stalked by a older white male due to he looked suspicious not to mention the many hings he said but i digress
kinda sad that someone weighing 40+ less than you can apply you in a full mount "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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