Post by Clay Master on May 24, 2013 20:38:48 GMT -6
Hey guys, Sasume here. I unfortunately had to yet again make another forum account so yeah >.< Anyway, I've come up with quite a few ideas for the Deidara clan so that not only we rid them of constantly spamming c2 while on a bird, but also hopefully they'd be a bit more useful. I have yet to see any Dei besides Inari use any techniques other then birds (maybe a few centepeds here and there)
So, lets get started. (This is a first-time BASIC thought, so of course it's open to critque and will be edited if I see fit hopefully)
Idea 1: Limit the amount of clay a Dei can have at one time.
Idea 2: ANY Raiton technique to come in contant with a deidara's clay would deactivate the clay making it null and void.
Idea 3: C2 Bird (ridable) and C2 Dragon will have health caps according to the users health.
Idea 4: C0 will be preventable if struck with Raiton. C0 will also drop the deis health to 0 before it's used, that way they can still be hit by raiton and die before exploding. C0 is a all-in bet, either it works or it doesn't.
Idea 5: A "Katsu!" verb in Nin that detonates special explosives (C4 Karua, C2 Dragons Missels, C1 Blobs, Centepede, Clone)
Idea 6: Uses of certain clay jutsu to unlock other clay jutsu along with other things. Maybe even a kill/death req.
In the Vitals tab there would be a "Clay Stacks" display and as you level up you can hold more clay at one time. In Ninjutsu there would be a "Create Stacks" verb, this would prompt the hands to reach down and eat clay, thus making one "stack" if you will and you'll see the number of stacks rise. There of course would be a maximum to the number of stacks. Each stack would be able to produce certain amounts of pieces of art per stack consumed.
You can get 3 C1 techniques from 1 stack (Spider, Cenetpede, C1 Bird, C1 Blob, Clay Clone), 1C2 Ridable Bird and 2 C2 Throwable Birds from 2 Stacks (1 for each hand, this is reasonable and makes sense if you think about it, dei himself had to take time to mold the clay and throw it), 1 C3 Device and 1 C2 Dragon for 3 Stacks (Dragon is special) (I'll get into C4 and C0 Later). Each stack costs a certain amount of chakra to make, and you cannot rest while you are making stacks. Now, lets get into the new techniques!
C1 Blob: These are the strange-looking creatures Deidara formed when he was still testing Sasuke with C1, the almost humanoid figured with strings attached. These figures could be created then used like puppets to barrage the enemy with. After reviewing the fight very carefully I noticed that Deidara himself was unable to move while the strings were connected since he had to continuously focus his chakra into the figures, hence the dei would be immobalized when using the blob. The Blobs would be C1 so I wouldn't consider the damage output very strong at all, yet when used in numbers they could be quite formidable. Another feature of the blobs could be they latch on to the enemy if stuck with a bear fist and then can be detonated by the dei. if the opponant has a chidori sword or any raiton techniques (this includes nagashi) the blobs would deactivate aka vanish automatically and a message would prompt on the dei's screen saying "your bombs have been disarmed" or something. Right now that's all I've got for the blob.
Clay Clone: This is a simple clone made of clay that detonates upon running into anything. The way i imagine this could go one of two ways. A) Be like Bunshin Bakuha only with the sensitivity of a regular bunshin and willful detonation. or B) be like cenetpede only move faster and be able to be detonated at will with a 3x3 tile range.
C2 Dragon: Here is the signature! The C2 Dragon. yes, this dragon would be ridable and airborn, but, it would have health equal to half the users. It would work like this; when the dragon is out there would be a "Tail Size" display in Vitals. As you know the dragons tail was made up on stored missels. it would start off at 10 or maybe 15 if the Dei was a certain level, then with each explosive created the tail count would drop by 1 if regular, 2 if it's a big one. These explosives would then be able to be shot out in a straight line and explode after a set amount of time or if detonated automatically. Right now that's all I'll throw out there for the Dragon and see what chomps at the bit.
Land Mines: Ok, here's how I think land mines would be redone a little. Instead of simply doing 1k damage flat they'd do maybe .8 or .4 the persons nin, honestly damagewise mines aren't that very useful. This is in reply to Deans suggestion.
C3: The best thing I can think of for C3 is simply speed up the time it takes to drop, either that or increase the blast range. Oh, also C3 would take up 5 Clay Stacks.
Now, time to roll up the sleeves and put on the bio-suit, it's C4 time!
How C4 would work would be this, you would have a verb called "Eat Clay"(C4) in Ninjutsu. When used you would consume half of however many stacks you have left, and a giant you would be formed over a period of 5 seconds(this giant could be as big as say manda or the two-headed dog icon) it would detonate if struck by a non-raiton attack or by using "Katsu" When ruptured, it would release invisible bombs that would be inhaled (contracted if stepped inside the range) in a say....8x8 tile radius. The damage would be an 8th of the users nin when detonated, however, this damage would apply over time until either the victim is dead or they either come in contact with a raiton technique or seek treatment through other methods. That's really all I've got for C4.
Now...here comes the Masterpiece! C0.....well, lets start by (I can feel the rage already) decreasing the damage, but increasing the blast range. You would HAVE to have at least 25% chakra and 3/4th of your clay stacks to use it, AND (don't kill me) you would need to be below 30% health. This method was used as a last resort when Dei saw no way out of the fight, hence it should be treated as a last resort in the game as well.
Well, that pretty much sums it up for me, feel free to comment and hopefully I'll check this in time to get feedback. Thanks!
So, lets get started. (This is a first-time BASIC thought, so of course it's open to critque and will be edited if I see fit hopefully)
Idea 1: Limit the amount of clay a Dei can have at one time.
Idea 2: ANY Raiton technique to come in contant with a deidara's clay would deactivate the clay making it null and void.
Idea 3: C2 Bird (ridable) and C2 Dragon will have health caps according to the users health.
Idea 4: C0 will be preventable if struck with Raiton. C0 will also drop the deis health to 0 before it's used, that way they can still be hit by raiton and die before exploding. C0 is a all-in bet, either it works or it doesn't.
Idea 5: A "Katsu!" verb in Nin that detonates special explosives (C4 Karua, C2 Dragons Missels, C1 Blobs, Centepede, Clone)
Idea 6: Uses of certain clay jutsu to unlock other clay jutsu along with other things. Maybe even a kill/death req.
In the Vitals tab there would be a "Clay Stacks" display and as you level up you can hold more clay at one time. In Ninjutsu there would be a "Create Stacks" verb, this would prompt the hands to reach down and eat clay, thus making one "stack" if you will and you'll see the number of stacks rise. There of course would be a maximum to the number of stacks. Each stack would be able to produce certain amounts of pieces of art per stack consumed.
You can get 3 C1 techniques from 1 stack (Spider, Cenetpede, C1 Bird, C1 Blob, Clay Clone), 1C2 Ridable Bird and 2 C2 Throwable Birds from 2 Stacks (1 for each hand, this is reasonable and makes sense if you think about it, dei himself had to take time to mold the clay and throw it), 1 C3 Device and 1 C2 Dragon for 3 Stacks (Dragon is special) (I'll get into C4 and C0 Later). Each stack costs a certain amount of chakra to make, and you cannot rest while you are making stacks. Now, lets get into the new techniques!
C1 Blob: These are the strange-looking creatures Deidara formed when he was still testing Sasuke with C1, the almost humanoid figured with strings attached. These figures could be created then used like puppets to barrage the enemy with. After reviewing the fight very carefully I noticed that Deidara himself was unable to move while the strings were connected since he had to continuously focus his chakra into the figures, hence the dei would be immobalized when using the blob. The Blobs would be C1 so I wouldn't consider the damage output very strong at all, yet when used in numbers they could be quite formidable. Another feature of the blobs could be they latch on to the enemy if stuck with a bear fist and then can be detonated by the dei. if the opponant has a chidori sword or any raiton techniques (this includes nagashi) the blobs would deactivate aka vanish automatically and a message would prompt on the dei's screen saying "your bombs have been disarmed" or something. Right now that's all I've got for the blob.
Clay Clone: This is a simple clone made of clay that detonates upon running into anything. The way i imagine this could go one of two ways. A) Be like Bunshin Bakuha only with the sensitivity of a regular bunshin and willful detonation. or B) be like cenetpede only move faster and be able to be detonated at will with a 3x3 tile range.
C2 Dragon: Here is the signature! The C2 Dragon. yes, this dragon would be ridable and airborn, but, it would have health equal to half the users. It would work like this; when the dragon is out there would be a "Tail Size" display in Vitals. As you know the dragons tail was made up on stored missels. it would start off at 10 or maybe 15 if the Dei was a certain level, then with each explosive created the tail count would drop by 1 if regular, 2 if it's a big one. These explosives would then be able to be shot out in a straight line and explode after a set amount of time or if detonated automatically. Right now that's all I'll throw out there for the Dragon and see what chomps at the bit.
Land Mines: Ok, here's how I think land mines would be redone a little. Instead of simply doing 1k damage flat they'd do maybe .8 or .4 the persons nin, honestly damagewise mines aren't that very useful. This is in reply to Deans suggestion.
C3: The best thing I can think of for C3 is simply speed up the time it takes to drop, either that or increase the blast range. Oh, also C3 would take up 5 Clay Stacks.
Now, time to roll up the sleeves and put on the bio-suit, it's C4 time!
How C4 would work would be this, you would have a verb called "Eat Clay"(C4) in Ninjutsu. When used you would consume half of however many stacks you have left, and a giant you would be formed over a period of 5 seconds(this giant could be as big as say manda or the two-headed dog icon) it would detonate if struck by a non-raiton attack or by using "Katsu" When ruptured, it would release invisible bombs that would be inhaled (contracted if stepped inside the range) in a say....8x8 tile radius. The damage would be an 8th of the users nin when detonated, however, this damage would apply over time until either the victim is dead or they either come in contact with a raiton technique or seek treatment through other methods. That's really all I've got for C4.
Now...here comes the Masterpiece! C0.....well, lets start by (I can feel the rage already) decreasing the damage, but increasing the blast range. You would HAVE to have at least 25% chakra and 3/4th of your clay stacks to use it, AND (don't kill me) you would need to be below 30% health. This method was used as a last resort when Dei saw no way out of the fight, hence it should be treated as a last resort in the game as well.
Well, that pretty much sums it up for me, feel free to comment and hopefully I'll check this in time to get feedback. Thanks!