lion
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Post by lion on Jan 9, 2013 14:13:27 GMT -6
Okay I love this game but it seriously needs some rework. Instead of adding new things in should focus on balancing/fixing the things that are already IG. Damage formulas need to be changed for a lot of things, but here's some suggestions.
~ Yotsukis This clan sucks needs a complete rework, - Lariat sucks not even worth the 2k stm, It's basically a run and punch, It needs a dash effect that's actually fast + a knock back. It does the same damage as a regular punch it needs to be like 2.5x str with the effect I just suggested because It's useless. - The drop kick does like what 1.5x str? Needs to do more these are suppose to be power house moves but suck compared to all the other clans. - Ration armor okay this is utterly useless, it's suppose to make you shunshin with no delay isnt it? I got to wait like 5+ secs between each shunshin and It only moves me around 5 tiles, only thing this move does basically is 1.5x str I think, needs to be fixed, this clan sucks and you need Jounin to use it?
~ Fuuton - You only get like what 2-3 moves if you're not in leaf? Should make it so every village gets the jutsus cuz that's just retarded. You shouldn't needa switch villages to make your ele actually useful.
~Stupid Sexy Jutsu - Remove that shit, the move that's in every Naruto rip. It auto stuns and people spam it all the time, It's just noobish and flat out no sense for it to be made to be used like that.
~Wind blade - It's damage is based on chakra that's a nono, rasengan and chidori does that but have to pour all of your chakra into it. This move should be based on your ninjutsu.
~That stupid chakra shield for puppet users - It's just opd they stay in there shield while sending out there puppets and I think I heard only chidori/Raikiri only goes through it? You need other jutsus to beable to go through it to, those 2 aren't the only jutsus that have as much destruction power.
~ Dotons - They need some ACTUAL offensive moves, they got what a targeted jutsu that does some damage, but dotons dragon spikes take to long for it to even actually pop up and shoot, rework doton dragon spikes and add new moves to this element.
I have a lot of other suggestions but I wanna see these ones actually be put into work. Love the game and the community this game has a lot of potential, just needs some rework. Would like to see some suggestions from other people to in case they think of a better way of balancing my suggestions out to see what works best. Thanks for reading.
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Post by ⋆ Reddeye ⋆ on Jan 9, 2013 14:21:31 GMT -6
Sexy jutsu needs a shorter freeze time. That only worked on three people in the show and that was only for comic relief. In a real fight the opposing ninja would call you a fag and stab you.
Wind Blade is based on a % of chakra and not the whole thing like Chidori or Rasengan so it is nowhere near in need of nerfing.
The puppet shield can easily be broken by other methods such as AOES or simply...attacking it from behind...
Doton is in the works. Cool your shit.
Overrall I like your idea for Lariat and agree with your complaint, but the rest of this just sounds like bitching. Try coming up with some more ideas for the other problems and posting them.
Edit: Fuuton is in the works. Cool your shit.
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 9, 2013 14:28:35 GMT -6
Thanks for the feed back, sexy jutsu shouldn't even be in though, shouldn't stun at all. It's in a lot of Naruto rips and just looks very unprofessional of its work.
For wind blade that's not even the point, it shouldn't be based on chakra, should be based on nin. You shouldn't have moves randomly based on a random stat. Wind blade dosen't have a charge so it shouldn't be based on your chakra at all. I didn't say it needed a nerf I said it needed a rework.
Puppet shield needs a nerf, saw a bunch of soundies vs one puppet nub staying in the shield while killing a bunch of noobies nothing hurts them even if you attack from behind you shouldn't need AOES.
Don't needa cool my shit It's a suggestion, that's what this thread is for, and most of these jutsus have been "In the works" for years and I see no change at all what so ever.
I'll try to post some more later thanks.
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Lisa
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Post by Lisa on Jan 9, 2013 14:39:40 GMT -6
Lets see here sweety, sexy no jutsu i can agree on but not for the same reason as you but for a more Naruto world reason. first of it isn't a genjutsu like in games but a transformation jutsu variation. It only stuns perverts and have been used for lulz in the show.
Wind blade i will have to disagree on, compared to rasengan, rasengan variations, chidori and raikiri it's damage is actually low for how it is used. Unless the target is stunned or stand still they will most likely not get hit from it. If you ask me it is rasengans, chidori and raikiri that need to have that power function removed and instead use a static amount of chakra to deal damage based on max chakra or something. For chidori Matt could make it so mastery lower the chakra cost to simulate Sasuke and Kakashi's mastery.
Doton have 3 offencive jutsus, 1 that i think is affinity only and is amazing known as dango, pretty much the super human strength boulder that you throw.
As a Yuki with rasengan i managed to break the puppeter shield so not sure if it is only raiton.
Now for Yotsuki i will say that you are probably building it wrong if it feels weak. Quattro managed to be really dangerous with his Yotsuki in previous wipes. If you want a pointer look up Sefirosu's guide in the official guides section, oh and have you mastered shushin?
Fuuton jutsus need a rework and i agree on letting other learn them, but that is up to Matt. Not like i see the issue since Kakashi still teach chidori to outsiders with raiton.
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Post by ⋆ Reddeye ⋆ on Jan 9, 2013 14:45:36 GMT -6
Sexy Jutsu is a jutsu which worked efficiently for Naruto. If you were to incorporate it in a Naruto based game then its purpose would be to, well, I guess stun. Is it a childish jutsu? Yes. Is it an annoying jutsu? Yes, but it is a jutsu nonetheless. I'm sure the game was intended to be as close to the manga/anime as possible and not adding a jutsu just because you don't like it would be just as immature as the sexy jutsu itself, and would be neglecting the game of its full potential.
I don't know what you meant by "charge", but whatever that means it doesn't define whether damage should be based on chakra or not. Wind Blade is solely made from chakra just like chidori and rasengan, the person uses their chakra to create a blade of wind in which releases a gust of wind, so why wouldn't the damage be based on chakra?
I don't remember exactly how puppet shield works then if attacking from behind doesn't work.
And cool your shit. It's a suggestion thread, but you're complaining about the problem without giving any solutions.
You're welcome.
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 9, 2013 14:51:30 GMT -6
Thank you for the feedback, and yeah using sexy jutsu on someone that is facing the other direction or is running away and stunning them is just a dumb idea.
For wind blade I just heard it was based on chakra and seemd like it to me, but shouldn't be based on chakra at all, should be nin. Also yes I agree with the changes to those two moves.
That boulder move is usless against someone who isn't stunned or knows how to fight, it takes like 3+ secs to actually throw the boulder It's to easy to read needs to be changed. Overall this element needs more offensive moves.
With the puppet shield thing that's what I meant, rasengan,chidori, and raikiri, those shouldn't be the only moves to be able to break barriers you get waht I'm saying?
I have a good build an all, but compared to other tai clans this clan is much inferior. It just needs a complete rework. Thank you haven't played in 2-3 years forgot about mastering shunshin lol, I'll check it out but it should be auto especially if you're in ration armor.
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 9, 2013 14:59:35 GMT -6
Reddeye, can you not read very well or something? You're saying I'm complaining and I'm not giving any solutions then you should reread this whole topic because I gave plenty of solutions to the problems I've stated.
Sexy jutsu shouldn't stun the user, there's no logic behind that. Someone uses sexy jutsu then gets a couple punches or jutsus in, that's why it should be removed, seeing someone nude shouldn't make you freeze as if you're asleep and get hit and not move.
Do you know what charge means? Like put the amount of chakra to = the damage, Every jutsu is based from chakra, that's invalid.
And for your last statement read uptop. ^
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Post by jake on Jan 9, 2013 16:07:42 GMT -6
You forgot the senju that spams 24/7
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Post by Red on Jan 9, 2013 16:24:02 GMT -6
Yotuski doesnt suck your just not using it right. If you know how to use Doton Dango then u can land it. Sexy jutsu idc about just learn to kawa. Puppet shield, I think it should be the same as the other shields, 1/2s damage (idk if domu was changed to this 2). Wind blade is fine as it is, you use chakra to cut people (I think ), stronger chakra stronger cut i guess . And yes the village thing can be annoying. Btw reading your post sounds like your just complaining .
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 9, 2013 19:51:11 GMT -6
I haven't seen any senjus lately, and idc if it sounds like It's complaining to you, I'm getting my point across and having my ideas said. Why you put a after that? lol, after reading your post you seem like a kid js, but like the feedback thanks. Edit: About dango, I know how to use it, it just takes to long to throw it, most dangos that land are either because the other player is stunned or is just a noob that runs in a straight line. An I'm not asking how to counter a jutsu or dodge it, I'm saying It's just spammed by noobs an people needa learn to fight without spam binding. Getmoreskillpls.
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Post by Red on Jan 9, 2013 22:31:10 GMT -6
If you dont know, I AM a kid. But the same could be said about your first post . And am gonna assume your talking about sexy no jutsu at the end. Its usually only used in raids, being raided or raiding. In 1v1s you can say no sexy jutsu, simple. In tornys you cant stun anyways. (Depends on rules). And the raided thing, well if your raiding or getting raided its basially anything goes, so sexy no jutsu is probly the least of your worries . The only I SEE tbat jutsu is like I said, raids. And by raids im talking about a random guy coming in and trying to kill you. Not just 1 vs village.
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 10, 2013 2:41:41 GMT -6
Yes, you're immature so It's easy to tell you're a kid. Don't care where It's used, the way it is just isn't right, only noobs that have to use a stun to kill would prob go against it.
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Post by Red on Jan 10, 2013 15:06:56 GMT -6
You sound more immature then me btws . There will always be a stun. Sword gen, Tree gen, etc etc. Orioke lasts like 1 second. If your gonna be narrow minded theres no reason to suggest something. Your basially "Dont care, it sucks remove it." So no reason to suggest anything here for me .
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Post by TRVPLXRD THURNIS on Jan 10, 2013 15:32:56 GMT -6
Well you suggested your ideas, you got your feedbacks, now this discussion is pretty immature from both sides so stop it and let other people give their opinion.
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lion
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Post by lion on Jan 10, 2013 15:57:28 GMT -6
The way you add smiley faces and those emotes make you seem immature, that's why I don't take you very seriously. Yes stuns are always gonna be in, but there's kai, and you can't kai sexy jutsu, it's not narrow minded It's just I would like that noob shit out and make fights more then just "Sexy jutsu one then gonna hit you with a one hitter" Cuz most fights are only what 3-4 hits when you're around the same lvl? Red you're right there's nothing for you to suggest now you can stop postin lol. Thurnis, I am letting people give their opinion but when someone adds a liddo side note I do don't trip.
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Post by Apex Barry on Jan 11, 2013 0:27:21 GMT -6
I guess he's playing the unofficial server? Idk, I never saw ya on the one hosted by Roy lol, but no matter.
The only thing that should be done with Sexy Jutsu is to make the cd as long as Kawarimi, that way, there's a way out of it if you plan your kawas carefully. As it stands, a person can kawa out but be caught and FRS/Raikiri'd before you can kawa again. Oh yeah, if it wasn't fixed, not being able to kawa out of Chidori/Raikiri should be fixed.
Wind Blade is fine. It's not easy to learn to hit with while people are running (which most people resort to stunning or binding to land it). It's damage is on par with some of the better ninjutsu, so it's fine.
Fuuton; Danzo's fuuton jutsu I doubt he would've ever leaked to outsider villages, so, given the fact that this game sticks close to the manga's canon, it makes sense that people would have to join leaf for the jutsu he teaches.
As for Yotsuki, the high stamina cost is meant to prevent you from spamming said techniques and from what I've seen a few Yotsuki can be monstrous. I haven't seen you play, but from what I can tell you have yet to learn how to use Yotsuki. Also, the Zero Delay Shunshin only works if you've mastered it, it only decreases the delay on Shunshin, not automatically reduces the delay to zero.
As for Doton, it's pretty much the defensive element in the game. And in the manga, it has shown a lot more defensive techniques than offensive. The Doton Dragon thing does kind of suck though. It's better used as a distraction rather than attempting to hit a moving target. The spikes are homing so most of the time they hit, and Dango is beastly.
As for stuns and gens, there will always be someone using them. Deal with it. Most people have found legitimate (as in, not bug abusing) ways around these jutsus. Really the only genjutsu people really had a problem with was Tree Gen as there was no way out of this, and you were binded.
As much as people complain about Senju, they aren't that strong unless they whore a stat. They only have like, 3 wood jutsu, only one of which does damage and it is so crappy that it's not even worth wasting chakra on. Good Senju don't spam the bind in fights (spamming it is ok in raids because, well, it's a raid), but in all honesty if it's available, there will always be someone who thinks it's funny to take advantage of it. In addition, if you attack a Senju, and get binded, don't get pissed. You brought it upon yourself, no reason to get angry at them.
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Post by bonesthedeadguy on Jan 11, 2013 11:39:14 GMT -6
I see what you're saying and i want to add something else. Hyuuga Kaiten I mean I understand that it block alot of things but now everything is literary breaking it.I mean a juugo breaking a kaiten really?
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Post by Matt on Jan 14, 2013 22:25:06 GMT -6
Lion, please don't judge people based on their use of "smile" to some people they convy emotion through text.
Your replies to other people's comments have been kinda negative, keep in mind that they are trying to explain things to you, no need to take offense.
Fuuton - Danzo teaches these Jutsus because you belong to Leaf, you SHOULDNT be changing Villages at all, the system isn't suppose to work like that. Fuuton does have jutsus that you can gain otherside of Leaf.
Yotsuki - Lairait deals extra damage based on your speed + if you have any type of Offensive Armor (Lightning Armor/Bijuu Cloak). Drop Kick is a stronger Tai move, simple as that, it isn't suppose to deal Taix100 because its quite quick.
Sexy no Jutsu has been...somewhat of a favorite to suggest changes about lately.
Puppet Chakra Sheild - Fair enough, I do need to rework this to block only from one direction.
Doton - This Element has quite a few Offensive Jutsus o.o Is this your main element? If it was your secondary I could understand.
Wind Blade - this jutsu has already been changed in the update, however it is ment to be overpowered. It was defined as a "Unstopable Blade of pure Wind."
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