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Post by Matt on Apr 23, 2010 23:01:39 GMT -6
Ok so lately I've been getting quite a few issues regarding Orochimaru's Body Stealing jutsu...
basically the way it works is once you learn it, its a one time use jutsu, using it on a player kills them, and changes your Clan to that Clan, keeping all the Jutsus you have already learned...well, the downside to this, is all of your Stats are hugely effected, dropping your hard earned max chakra to 1k...
I've been thinking about this and Im quite split...
1) The Jutsu is only useable after having 20k Chakra, when used it resets ALL Stats to around 1k or Lower, The Jutsu doesnt have the 1 use limit, making it possible for an Orochimaru to gain all Clan jutsus....acourse some jutsus (Such as Blood Line Jutsus) wont be able to be passed on. (More Story right Version/Hardcore)
2) Jutsu is only useable once, after using it, your stats are split about 50%. (More fair to Non-Orochimaru Users)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 3:27:37 GMT -6
Matt don't do this 20 k Chakra ? and NOt gain Kekkei Genkai ? Then what's the point with Orochimaru ? THis clan is also shitted that can change body only once , u could make it to change bodys only 4 times or 5 and that would be ok
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Post by Kalak on Apr 24, 2010 8:01:46 GMT -6
For the record... all clan jutsus are Kekkai Genkai...
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Post by ranassa on Apr 24, 2010 8:30:46 GMT -6
Is this serious?? O.o Do Orochimaru's stats reset when body-stealing. I really have to know, so i can choose a new clan before it's to late -.-
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 9:45:34 GMT -6
I mean Sharingan and Byakugan etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2010 10:28:20 GMT -6
i think 1k of his stats should be taken for each body he steals so if i were to steal a uchiha id loos 1k tai nin gen stam chakra and health that seems fair enough
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Post by Matt on Apr 24, 2010 11:24:41 GMT -6
Wah?! O.o Only take away 1k? Thats hardly anything...
Also Kalak I know, but how should it work then? Tis why I made the topic to get ideas on this.
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Post by Swag~arashi on Apr 24, 2010 17:17:05 GMT -6
Hmm If i was a Oro id probably settle with the second one. But eh im not sure
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Post by hajikikun on Apr 24, 2010 22:25:33 GMT -6
Well in the series, Orochimaru didn't permanently lose his abilities when using this Jutsu...He just got extremely exhausted, and it took a while for him to get his strength back.
It's an interesting concept...
How about, the Jutsu can be used as many times as you wish (once learned, obviously), but when you use it, your stats all fall to very low levels (except HP). Over time, maybe like an Hour or so, they are gradually restored to their original levels.
Ex: Strength starts at 10,000. Use Furou Fuushi Tensei jutsu, Strength falls to 1K. Every 3 seconds, regain 50 Strength until it reaches 10K again.
Now, obviously this would be extremely buggy if players were actively modifying their original Stat values (IE: How they were set BEFORE using the Jutsu). So, the next part of this suggestion: Make it so that players can NOT TRAIN OR DO ANY ACTIONS WHICH LEAD TO STAT CHANGES. Obviously, while extremely exhausted, you're unable to do much other than breathe and speak anyway...so why not keep it that way?
Players should be essentially stuck with nothing to do but Chat for that Hour (or however long you think it should take).
Not only would this be an amazing revolution for Orochimaru Clan...It's also 100% unique. Absolutely no other BYOND Naruto game uses this effect for FFT Jutsu.
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Post by ranassa on Apr 25, 2010 9:28:27 GMT -6
I like Haji's idea A LOT ^-^ But maybe an hour isn't long enough... I'd say atleast 2 And put a limit to the use of the jutsu, two times or maybe 3 but not more
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Post by Swag~arashi on Apr 25, 2010 10:50:00 GMT -6
Umm would logging out stop the recovery process? *Haji's Idea*
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Post by hajikikun on Apr 25, 2010 11:07:26 GMT -6
Umm would logging out stop the recovery process? *Haji's Idea* Only if Matt codes it incorrectly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 12:12:45 GMT -6
Kalak your sentence is wrong not all clan jutsus are Kekkai Genkai`s.
Kekkai Genkai: Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan, Shikotsumyaku etc.
And the other thing is Hidden clan jutsus: like nara shadow, inuzuka clan, aburame clan etc.
2 Ideas:
1. like matts you can do that jutsu if you have 20k chakra but your stats like strength, nin , gen and stamina get to 75% and chakra to 1k and health to 50%. if you steal a Kekkai Clan body and then you steal an other body you will lose the Kekkai Genkai, but if you have a Body that has only Hidden clan jutsus and then steal a new body the Hidden jutsus will stay
2. the original one if you get Fushi Tensei and you use it only your health and chakra get to 50% or 75% and you get a timer of 30 hours the timer goes only down if the player is on if the timer is at 5 mins then you can use Fushi Tensei again if you dont use it in the 5 mins you die and your char got deleted its hears hard but it is original if orochimaru use this jutsu not after 3 years he will die with the clans it is the same as in point 1.
sorry for my bad english.
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Post by lion on Apr 25, 2010 13:34:36 GMT -6
I think Hajis idea is good.
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Post by Matt on Apr 25, 2010 14:47:07 GMT -6
Josh, that isnt usefull, people would simply go AFK for an Hour ._.
Orochimaru would lose Jutsus that were only useable with that body/blood (Sharingan is the prime for this case, Another would be something like if he stole Haku's Body, while in Hakus body he could use the Ice Jutsus, but when he leaves it he wont be able to.)
Also Story wise Orochimaru was so weak even after his 3 years, Sasuke stated that when he killed him...I do like the idea of a time recovery, but I feel it would be simply abused...I like the idea of you having to retrain all of your stats...
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Post by Kalak on Apr 25, 2010 22:12:10 GMT -6
zerodanik, I am not wrong. I said that Kekkai Genkai (bloodline limits), are all the clan jutsus. I.E. the jutsus passed down via blood through the generations of the clan. A kekkai genkai is from special simultaneous manipulation of two different elements, like the Mizukage's two different kekkai genkai's. If the Kaguya's bone manipulation is a kekkai genkai, what makes you think that Nara's shadow, or Akimichi's fat, or Inuzuka's dog, or Aburame's bug manipulations are not kekkai genkai's? They are clan jutsus passed down through the generations via blood, not special hidden jutsus.
There are of course, certain "clans" in this game that aren't clans, such as Deidara, Jiongu, and Jashin, and thus their don't fall into the category of kekkai genkai, but they're not a part of what I was referring to.
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Post by Kalak on Apr 25, 2010 22:18:37 GMT -6
Perhaps it doesn't affect your stats, but you lose all the clan's jutsus when u transfer out of their body?
Ex: Oro steals Hyuuga -> keeps oro jutsus, gains byakugan etc
Then, OroHyuuga steals Uchiha -> loses byakugan etc, gains sharingan etc
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Post by hajikikun on Apr 25, 2010 22:20:56 GMT -6
Matt we obviously can't make people way 3 years to get stats back >.>
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Post by hajikikun on Apr 25, 2010 22:25:42 GMT -6
Oh, and what's different between what Oro does post-body-switch, and going AFK? >.> Oro wasn't exactly out&about, beating up Narutard's worldwide -.-'
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2010 6:10:22 GMT -6
No Kalak that is wrong I list now all Kekkei Genkais
Kekkei Genkai:
Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan and Ranmarus Dōjutsu,
Mokuton, Hyōton, Yōton, Futton,
Shikotsumyaku, Sōma no Kō (sakon and ukon), Satetsu (3rd kazekage).
and all other Clans have Hidden Clan jutsus they only give away to other Clan members from generation to genration.
the different is Kekkei Genkai is bloodline. that means only members with the clans bloodline can get the clan jutsus. only if you steal the doujutsu or DNA and implant this you can get the jutsus.
and Hidden clan jutsus can get everyone who knows the secret
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