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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Aug 18, 2014 21:39:22 GMT -6
Ok soo i was looking back at some mangas and saw dat sarutobi hiruzen was able to use all 5 elements ... i got one question is he the only shinobi dat can without the rinnegan?
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Aug 19, 2014 8:20:38 GMT -6
Yeah, it seems only shinobi with the Sharingan or Rinnegan can use advanced jutsu of all five elements like that without being insanely special. The Sarutobi clan is supposedly known solely for Fire-Style though (Lol @ Burning Ash Accumulation), and yet SOMEHOW Hiruzen is Fire/Water/Wind/Earth/Lightning. Maybe contracting with Enma, being the Monkey King and all, gives you access to high level ninjutsu without need for the affinity lol.
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Aug 19, 2014 10:30:06 GMT -6
i see why hes god of shinobi now , we never even saw a person with 4 elements other dan fillers and movies ( fuka took elements from kissing) ( hiruko stole elements) but yea hiruzen is really powerfull i whope they show us how he got all 5 ... Now dat i think of it orochimaru has all 5 due to experiments, or he might not have raition
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Aug 19, 2014 21:18:22 GMT -6
Oro only really has Earth, being primarily Genjutsu/Summoning oriented, the only actual Nin we've seen him use is Mud Dragon to counter Sarutobi's, along with Edo to bring back people who were conveniently capable of handling the other elements.
The interesting thing with Sound ninja is very few of them are actually Nin specialists.
Kimimaro -- Bone Taijutsu Kidomaru -- Weaponry/Summoning Sakon/Ukon -- Bloodline and Taijutsu Jirobo -- Taijutsu Orochimaru -- Genjutsu/Summoning (Most of his snake techniques are Illusory, proven by Sasuke being pretty much immune to them due to gen reflection, and Kakashi/Jiraya just Kai'ing everything). Tayuya -- Genjutsu Kabuto -- Medical Jutsu/Senjutsu Sound Genin -- Variations of Sound-Based Genjutsu
Oro could probably use all five if he wanted to though, considering he's hailed as a genius, and probably just hasn't been interested enough in them to use them.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Aug 19, 2014 22:48:50 GMT -6
orochimaru has 3 element as stated by the fan site. also he used the wind elemnt jutsu great breakthrough when facing naruto in 3 tailed mode. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Aug 20, 2014 10:41:16 GMT -6
dean is right but oro can use water too he has wood style now remmeber.
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Post by #Chair Force on Aug 20, 2014 11:27:28 GMT -6
Actually I am pretty sure it was stated that any shinobi is able to use any element. It is just that some have a high proficiency in others while some dont.
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Aug 20, 2014 12:35:46 GMT -6
oh is dat so
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Post by Dean Winchester on Aug 21, 2014 0:34:34 GMT -6
actually ninja's usually only have 2 elements. luckier people gain more. kakshie xplained it during the training naruto was doing for the rasenshrikin "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Iruna Nakara on Aug 24, 2014 13:43:26 GMT -6
well orochimaru technically can have all five because he original must have had only 2 elements but when he switched bodies he can gain more such as if he had two and found someone with 3 jackpot and so on and so forth
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Post by kamu on Sept 24, 2014 7:15:00 GMT -6
well orochimaru technically can have all five because he original must have had only 2 elements but when he switched bodies he can gain more such as if he had two and found someone with 3 jackpot and so on and so forth
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Post by #Chair Force on Sept 24, 2014 7:59:47 GMT -6
No, dean, shikamaru explained that any ninja can use any basic elemental jutsu as long as they know the basic handsigns. This was shown when they had set up the multiple doton walls to attempt to stop a bijuudama shot by Juubi.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Oct 4, 2014 19:32:01 GMT -6
so what the hell is the point of element nature.i am so tired of this anime and it's lot holes/bullshit. never seen such an anime with so many plot holes and inconsistencies.
"Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Oct 5, 2014 13:05:52 GMT -6
so what the hell is the point of element nature.i am so tired of this anime and it's lot holes/bullshit. never seen such an anime with so many plot holes and inconsistencies. "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" You must not read/watch Bleach. XD
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Post by #Chair Force on Oct 8, 2014 14:04:58 GMT -6
It's the efficiency in certain jutsus that you gain from having the element.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Oct 10, 2014 0:12:34 GMT -6
i never got into bleach considering its name was bleach and i don't like generic things. also i doubt its worse than naruto with the author breaking rules as if he didnt write the story to know them "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Oct 14, 2014 10:14:10 GMT -6
i never got into bleach considering its name was bleach and i don't like generic things. also i doubt its worse than naruto with the author breaking rules as if he didnt write the story to know them "Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better" Early chapters -- Only the shinigami who possesses the Zanpakuto can hold it. Aizen Fight -- Keigo is holding someone's Zanpakuto (A normal human lol) Early Chapters -- Quincies are spirit archers who only wield bows, and they lost out to the Shinigami who were both physically and numerically superior Current stuff -- Quincies use their fists, swords, guns, magical superpowers, everything EXCEPT bows. Case and point :/
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Oct 14, 2014 18:24:18 GMT -6
not true they some of them use bows as spirit weapons . But their spirit weapon can be anything like sword , gun etc like u said.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Oct 16, 2014 23:25:42 GMT -6
naruto is still worst
1.Tobirama explains that uchihas awaken the mangkeyou sharingan when an uchiha feels some type of way and a chemical is released from the brain into the eyes.
plot hole/inconsistency: obito somehow managed to awaken both Hidden Stuff eyes even though one lacked the chemical and was in kakshi's body.
2.you lose your tailed beast you die
plot hole/inconsistency: killer b manages to survive due to he absorbed some of it charka from a left behind tail.
3. this anime is about hard work and proving those that you dont need to be gifted or talented do be great. destiny is apparently not a factor.
plot hole/inconsistency: the strongest two ninjas (2nd to the sage maybe. naruto and sasuke are as broken as superman) in the world are 16-18 years old and basically say screw training and get stronger by doing nothing really, while having been destined all this time. where as guys who train all day long like lee get no appearances.
"Not only am I better looking, Im just plain better"
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Oct 17, 2014 14:32:35 GMT -6
one.. u cant say they didnt train to get stronger we all know naruto did. second if ur comparing them to superman you need to state which one, cuz there are many supermans , like superman-prime, mid silver age superman and post crisis superman.
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