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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Nov 25, 2015 15:06:36 GMT -6
Now imagine a lv25~30 super-genin just slaughtering Jounin knowing damn well if they kill him, he'll barely be worth anything xD priceless.
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 25, 2015 15:36:08 GMT -6
Yeah, but a high level genin won't have any jutsu that are ranked C and higher
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Nov 25, 2015 16:02:41 GMT -6
Ah, so that's how it's going to be handled now. Interesting. Level-based learning got a bit silly late-game honestly anywho.
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 25, 2015 16:22:38 GMT -6
Yes sir, jutsu will be learned based on rank and most likely talking to NPC
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Post by Revenge on Nov 26, 2015 3:49:33 GMT -6
You keep surprising, Sefi! Though, I do prefer some old style, like some jutsus can only be obtained if you have a specific amount of a stat.
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Nov 26, 2015 7:56:52 GMT -6
Though, now that actually has me curious. Will we get some village-specific stuff I.E. a Rock Villager who has Doton/Raiton gets Bakuton and joins the Explosion Corps? Seems like this could be stuff that would be awesome to have (initially) be perks for loyalty to your village. Especially since you mentioned something like intelligence orbs stolen through pvp in the past.
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 26, 2015 8:28:38 GMT -6
Revenge, there will still be some jutsu that require a certain amount of stat points, but I won't go into detail, and there's also certain clans for non clan that will require a certain amount of stat points.
Kurei, ;}
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Nov 26, 2015 11:33:53 GMT -6
will there be party/squad lvling?
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 26, 2015 11:54:12 GMT -6
I wanted to back when Mic was coding, which is why we brought squads back in the first place. It's on the table, I just haven't worked out the details
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 28, 2015 16:35:28 GMT -6
Once I've finished with the jutsu list of each clan, I'm gonna create a new thread and list them out. It's gonna be loooong
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Nov 28, 2015 17:09:51 GMT -6
kool ive been editing some things and making others atm,on iron world order for satetsu and cant seem to get gold sand right but ill show u them later
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 28, 2015 18:28:08 GMT -6
What do you mean?
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Post by Zezu Sarutobi on Nov 28, 2015 18:33:06 GMT -6
get on skype
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Post by Infinity on Nov 28, 2015 22:13:57 GMT -6
We figured logically, you have the same life when you are born as you do when you're older, and your chakra reserve never naturally grows. This will help prevent players from killing low leveled players in the beginning of the game. swords will degrade overtime. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Kurei, but actual clans will remain in their respective village, IE Uchiha in Leaf, Kaguya in Mist. But Non Clans are mostly not limited to villages. For example, if a Non Clan from Hidden Sound wants to follow the ways of Jashin, he may do so if he can find the cult. If a Non Clan from Hidden Mist wants to be a puppeteer, he may do so if he can be accepted as a student by a Puppet Master. Literally logged in to say 3 things after reading this. 1) Logically, you have less time to live as you get older, thus less life. I mean, I understand that you think that the AMOUNT of time a person lives is static, but that would require knowing when people are going to in the first place. Also, when the 3rd fought against Orochimaru, weren't those fodder ANBU members saying the 3rd didn't have near the chakra reserves of his youth? Doesn't that mean we need an age system, where the longer you play the more HP and Chakra your character loses? 2) Will 7 Swordsman blades degrade? Please say yes. Fuck da Samehada. 3) Any new Sand Clans? Or will Gaara FINALLY get to fly or what?
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Post by Infinity on Nov 28, 2015 22:28:51 GMT -6
Now as far as what I want to see.
1. I don't want to go from the land of Wind to the land of Fire to learn Fuuton moves. Hopefully there are more village jutsus available for villages that are more useful, as well as elemental jutsus. NPCs teaching people regardless of their village will also be a plus.
2. Prices in the shops getting balanced. It didn't make sense how cheap shuriken were and how every Yuuki (whichever the Haku clan is) was spamming them, then if you wanted to use kunai or something for other jutsus they cost more so you had to be careful.
3. Since log training will be slow, can we afk train without GMs bugging us now?
4. The map is bigger and that's cool, but if fighting happens in another village and you keep having to cross repeatedly to get back to the battlefield it gets tiring. Hopefully transportation gets a bit simpler to handle.
5. Hopefully Tree Gen can get broken by everyone now, the ultimate troll move of tree gen/kirin gets old fast. Speaking of which, breaking ALL genjutsus with either some higher level'd Kai (through uses maybe?) or another jutsu in general would be handy.
6. I went Senju in whatever server I played on last time because they said something about a new move. Not only was there no new move, but training to level 7k and looking at the jutsus Senju had. They were GAARRRBBBAAAGGEEE, getting hits in and shit wasn't the problem it was the moves in general that were the issue, too weak or too slow, or whatever. I would like this clan to essentially be broken into 2 subtypes or something for Mokuton and then Suiton, then have jutsus based around the 1st and 2nd Hokages for each respectively or just something that would make a person want to play that clan besides getting a house. Hell, even the house was bugged the last time I played, had to drown myself to get out.
hmm....What else, I'll get back to yah
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Nov 28, 2015 22:53:39 GMT -6
Alot of those sound like they're being addressed. One thing Sefi mentioned earlier in the year was an intelligence system where you can kill players from other villages to learn village secrets (I.E. kill leaf villagers and you can learn their secret Fuutons). He said he's thinking of putting a check a in place for Gen earlier in this topic, a stat-tied one. All clans are pretty much getting overhauled and re-balanced.
A bigger map definitely does present a concern for transportation. Maybe Kages will finally get some worthwhile stuff, like war declaration thing, where members of your village respawn near the village being warred against (not right on top of it, but at some kind of neutral camp near each village). XD
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Post by Sefirosu on Nov 28, 2015 23:22:06 GMT -6
We figured logically, you have the same life when you are born as you do when you're older, and your chakra reserve never naturally grows. This will help prevent players from killing low leveled players in the beginning of the game. swords will degrade overtime. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Kurei, but actual clans will remain in their respective village, IE Uchiha in Leaf, Kaguya in Mist. But Non Clans are mostly not limited to villages. For example, if a Non Clan from Hidden Sound wants to follow the ways of Jashin, he may do so if he can find the cult. If a Non Clan from Hidden Mist wants to be a puppeteer, he may do so if he can be accepted as a student by a Puppet Master. Literally logged in to say 3 things after reading this. 1) Logically, you have less time to live as you get older, thus less life. I mean, I understand that you think that the AMOUNT of time a person lives is static, but that would require knowing when people are going to in the first place. Also, when the 3rd fought against Orochimaru, weren't those fodder ANBU members saying the 3rd didn't have near the chakra reserves of his youth? Doesn't that mean we need an age system, where the longer you play the more HP and Chakra your character loses? 2) Will 7 Swordsman blades degrade? Please say yes. Fuck da Samehada. 3) Any new Sand Clans? Or will Gaara FINALLY get to fly or what? 4) I don't want to go from the land of Wind to the land of Fire to learn Fuuton moves. Hopefully there are more village jutsus available for villages that are more useful, as well as elemental jutsus. NPCs teaching people regardless of their village will also be a plus. 5) Prices in the shops getting balanced. It didn't make sense how cheap shuriken were and how every Yuuki (whichever the Haku clan is) was spamming them, then if you wanted to use kunai or something for other jutsus they cost more so you had to be careful. 6) Since log training will be slow, can we afk train without GMs bugging us now? 7) The map is bigger and that's cool, but if fighting happens in another village and you keep having to cross repeatedly to get back to the battlefield it gets tiring. Hopefully transportation gets a bit simpler to handle. 8) Hopefully Tree Gen can get broken by everyone now, the ultimate troll move of tree gen/kirin gets old fast. Speaking of which, breaking ALL genjutsus with either some higher level'd Kai (through uses maybe?) or another jutsu in general would be handy. 9) I went Senju in whatever server I played on last time because they said something about a new move. Not only was there no new move, but training to level 7k and looking at the jutsus Senju had. They were GAARRRBBBAAAGGEEE, getting hits in and shit wasn't the problem it was the moves in general that were the issue, too weak or too slow, or whatever. I would like this clan to essentially be broken into 2 subtypes or something for Mokuton and then Suiton, then have jutsus based around the 1st and 2nd Hokages for each respectively or just something that would make a person want to play that clan besides getting a house. Hell, even the house was bugged the last time I played, had to drown myself to get out. hmm....What else, I'll get back to yah 1. I disagree with having an aging system 2. Yes, SSM swords will degrade over time, except for Zabuza's cleaver, and they will require repairs 3. If you consider Gold Dust as a new clan, than yes there will be a new clan. Ironically, there's actually going to be less clans in Sand, at the same time, since all of the clans in Sand were removed and replaced with Non Clan. Also, yes Sand users will be able to fly 4. There's going to be either 2 things that will happen. Either I implement the system I've talked about before which Kurei mentioned, where if you kill a player from a village that has a village exclusive jutsu and this player knows it, you can steal the knowledge of the jutsu from the body. Or, I remove village exclusive jutsu all together. Remember, in 3.0, the kage can't remove or invite players to villages, so if you leave the village, you will forever be a missing nin, with some exception 5. Prices will be changed 6. Third party programs will remain banned from the game, so no. 7. Kurei pretty much guessed at what my intentions were. If a kage challenges another kage for a village war, and the challenge is accepted, everyone who wants to participate will be teleported to a war map. Another option is for a kage to wage war on another village, which doesnt require the attacked village's kage to accept. However, to keep it fair, a village can not be attacked if the kage is not online 8. Genjutsu hasn't been worked out yet 9. Senju is getting a nice buff, as well as many other clans
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Nov 29, 2015 7:41:50 GMT -6
Loving all these ideas <3. Hurrry upppp and make it happen !!!!
(Also, Hi hi to everyone)
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Post by Tidus on Nov 29, 2015 10:28:17 GMT -6
Maito-Kun!!!!
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Post by blazingjace on Nov 29, 2015 12:11:14 GMT -6
Hey I literally just found these forums and I was just wondering how everyone was doing. Also I was wondering if there was anything I could do to possibly to help with the game? And finally how far are we with the next update.
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