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Post by Matt on Jul 11, 2012 23:10:25 GMT -6
Ok so as I was going over this...I think limiting the whole Profession system to Only Non-Clans might be a bad idea, so I'm thinking about allowing clans to access certain Professions, not all, but kinda the General ones. So far, here is the list of Professions, if I think it should be able to be accessed by a "Normal" clan, I'll mark it with a smily. DNA Manipulator - Able to implant Senju Cells/Sharingans into their arms, able to gain Izanagi. - Danzo Taijutsu Expert - Able to learn specialized Taijutsu and openning of the Eight Gates. - Gai and other local village teachers. Medic - Able to access healing jutsus along with offensive based jutsus. - Tsunade, Kabuto, and local Trainers. Genjutsu Expert - Able to access higher level Genjutsus - Local Village trainers Swordsmen - Able to wield the Heavier Swords and use Sword based Jutsus (Still unsure on this, maybe nerf Large Sword damage for anyone not a Swordsmen...think Zabuza and how he had to train to use his sword) - Local Village Trainers in Mist and Cloud only Fan User - Requires Fuuton element, able to create Gusts of wind via use of a Fan - Temari Ninjutsu Expert - Mastery of your Elements allow you to access normally blocked Jutsus from said elements. I'm thinking that Non-Clans can have access to a Profession right away, while a "Normal" Clan would have to wait until they were a certain Level and train for it with reqs/Ryo cost. Also thinking that certain professions such as Tai Expert would only gain certain jutsus (Like Gates) if the person was a Non-Clan. Basiclly I'm thinking it like this... Non-Clans can learn Prof from the start with a minor cost/req Normal Clans have a higher req/cost and are blocked out from the "Signature" Jutsus of a Profession (Last Self heals of Medic, Gates of Tai Expert, etc) Again, fully open to your comments/concerns. Please post!
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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jul 11, 2012 23:20:16 GMT -6
This sounds O.o....a lot like SoL. I'm not a fan of that ninjutsu expert prof either =l, aren't most ninjas supposed to be good at ninjutsu?
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Post by Matt on Jul 12, 2012 0:26:24 GMT -6
I kinda wanna scrap the whole Profession system honestly ._.
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Post by hermes123 on Jul 12, 2012 4:58:00 GMT -6
Why not then. Seems pointless
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Post by Maito 'The Islander' Bone on Jul 12, 2012 10:13:44 GMT -6
This sounds O.o....a lot like SoL. I'm not a fan of that ninjutsu expert prof either =l, aren't most ninjas supposed to be good at ninjutsu? First thing that popped into my head. I don't mind the profession system as long as it doesn't stop the kaguya revamp..lalalalala.... For now, just put it on the back burning until you have a more solid way of incorporating the suggestions. When the profession talk first arised, i don't remember feeling this..this doubtful for lack of a better word.
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Post by Matt on Jul 12, 2012 10:18:24 GMT -6
I just wanted a way to streamline the "Non-Clans" but now it seems to becoming more of a hassle then I thought it to be. :/
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Post by F.G.D Slayer, Mello on Jul 12, 2012 22:01:33 GMT -6
Alright here's a question, If a normal clan were to become a medic (assuming you make it so normal clans would have access to becoming one) Would that mean ontop of having their regular clan jutsus, they would also get the medic jutsus? And would they still have the ability to implant sharingan/DNA or will that be a non clan/DNA manipulator exclusive?
Edit: I say just scrap the entire thing if it's too much of a hassle. not like it matters much to me either way.
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Post by hermes123 on Jul 12, 2012 22:06:16 GMT -6
Where do get senju cell do they have to kill senjus. If they do I say this is a outrage
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Post by Swag~arashi on Jul 15, 2012 9:22:29 GMT -6
I think the idea is solid. It may be a hassle but the goal here is to add more diversity in options for your character's "build."
I could go into detail about my ideas for each but I don't think that's what your looking for here.
As for the Non-clans. Perhaps they could spec into two professions while normal clans could only do one?(Excluding DNA manipulator... no way am I dealing with a Jashin with Izangi.) This way it gives non-clans something special while still remaining true to the fact that people in clans are not simply bound to their clan's jutsu.
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Post by Red on Jul 15, 2012 9:59:54 GMT -6
I bet alotta ppl gonna go gen expert with something else if you can have 2 proffs . Maybe if you get a 2nd proff you cant learn their core move like matt was gonna do for clans with proffs?
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Post by Apex Barry on Jul 15, 2012 10:49:27 GMT -6
I'd say this was a solid idea Matt.
@mello, no, the DNA manipulator is a Non-Clan only thing. It's not marked with a smiley.
I'd say the idea that "Normal" clans have a limited number of jutsu they can access within a profession is a good idea. That way they don't become too OP with their Clan jutsu + All the jutsu a profession can use.
Also thinking about opening up Taijutsu expert (a person who is in a Clan can only unlock the first gate, while a taijutsu expert will eventually unlock all 8) and in addition to that, they get a small tai boost (+10% of their tai at the time they take the profession, 5% for Clans).
Also like the ninjutsu expert thing, that way stuff like Kirin and Raikiri would be limited not to just affinity but you have to have the Ninjutsu profession along with it.
Toad Sage is no longer gonna be a profession? I was thinking the two different sages being randomized like Sharingan, except Dragon Sage would be more rare (like an if/else if statement with a matrix assigning a random integer to everyone's characters upon creation and if that number is x out of 100 or something [very specific numbers] then they would be Dragon Sage when talking to the appropriate NPC, else they'd become a Toad Sage. That's just an idea though.
Overall I agree with Waga, it might be a hassle but that comes with doing a major update to the game such as this. Also you're sticking even closer to the manga with the profession system, which is awesome. I think the Non-Clan version of Medic could learn a verb (if taught by Tsunade and from leaf only) that enhances their strikes with chakra (also draining chakra while it's activated).
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Post by Black Frank White on Jul 15, 2012 13:34:34 GMT -6
good idea long as people get 1 profession.
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Post by F.G.D Slayer, Mello on Jul 15, 2012 23:46:51 GMT -6
@mello, no, the DNA manipulator is a Non-Clan only thing. It's not marked with a smiley. I wasn't asking whether DNA manipulator was a Non-Clan only thing. Currently medics have the ability to implant Sharingan. What I was curious about was whether a Normal Clan that went with medic prof would be able to implant sharingan or would that be restricted to DNA manipulators/Non Clans that went medic.
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Post by shadowwboi13 on Aug 12, 2012 17:59:29 GMT -6
I dont think Normal clans should be able to get professions. (Probably just me though) Because even if they cant unlock the full power of these professions it still gives them even more of an edge when they already have their clan abilities.
I know that there are some clans that have like little to no abilities whatsoever that this could benifit but it would just make OP clans even more op.
Also i dont think ninjutsu expert should be given to normal clans because certain clans (Jiongu comes to mind first) that have multiple elements would get way to overpowered if they were not restricted on which abilities they could get.
Keeping Professions only for non-clan would also be better because it gives a large variety of "clan type things" to every village. Meaning villages that usually get little to no population might get a few more members because the professions are not restricted to villages.
idk just my 2 cents though. do what you want with it, it is your game after all
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Post by Yoto on Aug 25, 2012 11:06:57 GMT -6
i found the non clans fine as they were ;o
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Post by Jordanland on Aug 25, 2012 13:36:49 GMT -6
i found the non clans fine as they were ;o Untrue....most Non Clan users went With Sharingan and used Kamui
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Aug 25, 2012 13:51:14 GMT -6
Or Tai and Tai-Whore, OHKOing.
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Post by trayanmladeno on Aug 25, 2012 14:11:33 GMT -6
Is Toad sage coming back or what D:<?
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Post by Yoto on Sept 2, 2012 5:26:28 GMT -6
i found the non clans fine as they were ;o Untrue....most Non Clan users went With Sharingan and used Kamui some medics did that to
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Sept 2, 2012 10:49:01 GMT -6
Exactly 0.o medic is a non-clan lol.
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