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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 14, 2012 0:33:51 GMT -6
Before everyone wets themselves let them know that this is regarding Sasuke's susano'o. There will be two parts to my suggestion.
Part 1 (Susano'o distribution): Personally I think which susano'o you get should be based on how you train. i.e. if you have more sword skill when you get hidden shit you get itachi's version while if you have more throwing skill you get Sasuke's (Keep reading to understand why I said skill and not nin/gen).
Part 2 (Sasuke's buff): A stage 3 Sasuke susano'o only shoots ama arrows before ems, which all it does is just caste people it touches on fire. Imo it should do x1 nin damage when it hits as well and it would also be cool if you could make the arrow travel faster depending on your throw skill, i.e. 10k ts shoots it at half speed (current speed=half speed) and then at 20k ts it moves along twice as fast. See this is why I said it should be given upon more ts than ss.
Another thing it really needs is just the same damage protection that stage 3 itachi's susano'o gets, because 1.) It's only fair when compared with Itachi's susano'o and 2.) Still seems pretty legit when you look at the manga.
Conclusion: Some people revolve their entire build around the susano'o they get and if they get the wrong one randomly distributed to them they're just shit out of luck. Personally I think there needs to be some reassurance to which susano'o you'll get instead of just being the luck of the draw, and the buff toward's sasuke's susano'o will encourage more uchihas to throw train and thus establish some variety. I'm sure people like hiroshi, kuni, and noshi will agree that Sasuke's susano'o is a pretty poor comparison to Itachi's, even if they won't admit it.
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Post by Uchiha Sayori on Jun 14, 2012 1:28:21 GMT -6
i approve of this idea
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Post by Kyoshiro on Jun 14, 2012 3:23:17 GMT -6
i like this idea... but Roy what is a good build for Sasuke??? also to get Sasuke hidden shit should Sword Train because Sasuke wield a sword and also knows how to throw shuriken....
How about Madara's Susanoo???
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Post by Death on Jun 14, 2012 4:25:02 GMT -6
Kyoshiro, there's no need to triple post. Madara's susano'o will be added after we've seen it in the anime so Kalak can color it properly, and we can see it fight in full motion.
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Post by Dean Winchester on Jun 14, 2012 7:10:33 GMT -6
why would your arrow of death need to travel faster?
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Post by haru on Jun 14, 2012 10:06:57 GMT -6
when have we ever seen it in the anime if so please leave a link Kyoshiro, there's no need to triple post. Madara's susano'o will be added after we've seen it in the anime so Kalak can color it properly, and we can see it fight in full motion.
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Post by noshi on Jun 14, 2012 11:03:49 GMT -6
It hasn't been shown, hence it's not in the game yet..
I kind of like how susanoo is right now. Even though sasuke's arrows suck since it's random I've added more nin so my stage 2 arrows can effectively deal better damage instead of the stage 3 arrows.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 11:26:32 GMT -6
yea sasuke's is pretty meh. to be honest the game went down when i was still blind so i haven't had a chance to use it hardcore.
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Post by Apex Barry on Jun 14, 2012 12:19:05 GMT -6
I suppose the stage 3 arrows could have a set damage it does + lights the target on fire with Amaterasu (so the damage actually drains them if they get hit by it). As for blocking, HELL NO. Screw that biz, Itachi's isn't ranged so it's fair he can block things to some degree due to the mirror. Arrows + Blocking? Get, the F, out of here. >:I
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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 14, 2012 12:28:47 GMT -6
I suppose the stage 3 arrows could have a set damage it does + lights the target on fire with Amaterasu (so the damage actually drains them if they get hit by it). As for blocking, HELL NO. Screw that biz, Itachi's isn't ranged so it's fair he can block things to some degree due to the mirror. Arrows + Blocking? Get, the F, out of here. >:I Susano'o still protected Sasuke from Danzo though and also Itachi's does have some range due to magatama.
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Post by Tiikeri on Jun 14, 2012 12:33:14 GMT -6
I'm all for the arrow buff, and the distribution by training methods. However, it is safe to assume that Itachi's Susano'o could have had more defense than Sasuke's. Sasuke's susano'o WAS melted by Mei's Skilled Mist jutsu.
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Post by Apex Barry on Jun 14, 2012 13:03:27 GMT -6
The magatama isn't in the game though Roy, and also it's safe to assume all Susano'o have that capability since 2/3 we've seen thus far have been able to use it, the third (Sasuke) isn't that skilled with his Susano'o yet.
Susano'o no longer drains your health in the game, right? Well there's absolutely no sense in making it more OP'd by allowing you to shoot fast arrows + block all tai. Also the arrows in the manga are OHKO for sure, being stabbed by that large of an arrow through the midsection is pretty much a death sentence lol. Itachi's Susano'o in game has the sword that has a decent range but it has a counter.
If anything, it could reduce tai damage by 1/4 instead of 1/2 just to make things fair to both sides. Note: I said BY 1/4, not TO 1/4.
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Post by Kurei Hiitaka on Jun 14, 2012 15:07:12 GMT -6
i like this idea... but Roy what is a good build for Sasuke??? also to get Sasuke hidden shit should Sword Train because Sasuke wield a sword and also knows how to throw shuriken.... How about Madara's Susanoo??? Kyo, for throwing uchiha I focused on speed/nin and put the 7.5k gen necessary for the uchiha gen techs (Speed helping my throwing damage) though that's my build, and I'm hardly an uchiha expert. xD
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Post by Lazaro on Jun 14, 2012 17:40:29 GMT -6
Magatama is in the game o.o
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Post by noshi on Jun 14, 2012 18:17:43 GMT -6
Shhhh laz don't let him know what moves we have.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 18:31:32 GMT -6
no reducing of my damn susano
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Post by Matt on Jun 14, 2012 19:37:13 GMT -6
er...a few things I should say.
I do like the idea of SS and Throwing affecting your Susanoo, however it seems like to me Itachi was more trained in Throwing and ended up with the Sword Susanoo, while Sasuke (who was trained in Sword but magicly weilded a bow when he was a kid) gets the Throwing Susanoo...odd.
Idea is still good.
The stage 3 Susanoo's arrows not doing damage is my fault, its a bug, they should be doing damage. Same with Itachi's EMS Susanoo's Maganata (when you have hidden shit it does damage, but after EMS it just burns, no damage)
Projectiles CAN NOT MOVE FASTER THEN THEY ALREADY ARE. I can't stress that enough. I don't know of a way to make it faster unless I use two move commands (but that would make it appear to skip 2 tiles at once) move(usr,usr.dir,0) is the command I use. that means usr is going to move in usr.dir (direction) at a lag of 0 (0 being the lowest)
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Post by Uchiha Sayori on Jun 14, 2012 19:44:16 GMT -6
the thing i want to know is @.@ will sussano gain legs now ?
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Post by Lazaro on Jun 14, 2012 20:19:34 GMT -6
Only Madara's since Itachi's and Sasuke's haven't shown legs.
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Post by If ur reading this its to late on Jun 14, 2012 21:27:02 GMT -6
The magatama isn't in the game though Roy, and also it's safe to assume all Susano'o have that capability since 2/3 we've seen thus far have been able to use it, the third (Sasuke) isn't that skilled with his Susano'o yet. Susano'o no longer drains your health in the game, right? Well there's absolutely no sense in making it more OP'd by allowing you to shoot fast arrows + block all tai. Also the arrows in the manga are OHKO for sure, being stabbed by that large of an arrow through the midsection is pretty much a death sentence lol. Itachi's Susano'o in game has the sword that has a decent range but it has a counter. If anything, it could reduce tai damage by 1/4 instead of 1/2 just to make things fair to both sides. Note: I said BY 1/4, not TO 1/4. you are really misinformed Barry lol, susano'o still drains hp even in ems and like laz said, magatama is in game.
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